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So let's, let's go to, um,
how, how you do this at home.
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And again, I'm going to go over the
numbers again, because again, it's, it's,
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it's, I understand that it's confusing.
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Uh, the number you want
to keep in mind is one 20.
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over 80.
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Now this is another chart that basically
shows you what I was showing before.
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So I don't, you don't have to go into
a lot of detail with it, but what, what
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you do want to know is find the 120
over 80 and that's where you want to be.
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But as we said before, as we get older,
that blood pressure creeps up, right?
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So, uh, your blood pressure at
70 is going to be higher than it
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was at 20 or 30, just normally.
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Doesn't mean you're a bad person,
and let, let, let me address this.
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One of the things that I tried
very hard with my patients is to
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have them eliminate the guilt.
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You, you will be amazed at how.
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Patients feel guilty.
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Now, that's not just because
they do it themselves.
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People say, well, you should have
done so and so and so and so.
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That's why your blood pressure is so high.
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And if you didn't do, you know, that
we, we make each other feel guilty.
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You know, husbands make wives feel guilty.
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Wives make husbands feel
guilty on and on and on and on.
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Get away, let go of the guilt.
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It just makes the blood pressure worse.
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So care about the guilt.
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We're all human.
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We're all makes mistakes.
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We're not perfect.
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It's okay.
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You don't have to be perfect.
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It's okay.
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God made it us the way we
are and he, he is perfect.
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So it's okay.
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Uh, so, so, so don't
worry about the guilt.
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We particularly see that with
obesity where, where people
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feel I must be a bad person.
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That's why I can't control my, my diet.
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It's not true necessarily.
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And a lot of times this stuff is genetic.
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As a matter of fact, your blood
pressure may not be because
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you did something wrong.
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You may have gotten that from mom and
dad or grandma and granddad, right?
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So it's not your fault.
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So if you blame yourself
for stuff, let that go.
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Just, just, just let that go.
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It's not worth it.
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And indeed, the more you blame
yourself, the higher it makes
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your blood pressure anyway, right?
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So that you can do really easily.
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All right, so this I found was golden,
and I, I, I researched every single
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topic that I'm going to talk about
multiple times, even though I think
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I know it, but I still research it.
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And I found this list that I
just thought was excellent.
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What this does is that it tells you how
to measure your blood pressure at home.
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How to measure your
blood pressure at home.
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How many times have you gone to the
doctor and had him or her to give you
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instructions, specific instructions,
about what you should do at home
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to measure your blood pressure?
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Most times they don't, they'll just say,
well, you take it and you put it here
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and you make sure you squeeze it and
the whole thing and, and if it's this,
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it's I've not called me or whatever.
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So, so we're going to go over this.
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Number one, do not drink caffeine,
smoke, exercise at least once a day.
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30 minutes before you take your
blood pressure, don't, don't jump
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up on your, your exercise bike.
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So, oh my goodness, I got an
appointment at six o'clock and I got
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to hurry up and, oh, I need to run
and take my blood pressure before
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I go to my, no, don't do that.
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Do not do that, right, right,
because your blood pressure is going
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to be high and then you're going
to really get upset, oh my God.
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And that's just going
to make it higher, okay?
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So, let me go over number one.
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And if you don't remember any slide that
I presented today, remember this slide.
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Remember this slide.
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And let me also say, God bless Shelly,
who now puts this on the website.
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puts this on the church website.
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It's on your church website.
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SDSBC.
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It's on your church website.
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Uh, and if you see, it's on the events.
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It's on the events, uh, the
Hoblock personal lecture today.
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Scroll down and the PowerPoint is there.
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It's at the bottom of the page.
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And so it's there.
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But, but, but please remember this.
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So again, don't drink caffeine.
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Why?
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Because caffeine is a stimulant.
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I love coffee.
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Caffeine is a stimulant.
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30 minutes before you
check your blood pressure.
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You can drink your coffee, but
just don't do it before that.
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Don't smoke, exercise at
least 30 minutes before that.
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Number two.
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Empty your bladder before
you take your blood pressure.
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Seems simple, but, but many times it can
add to an increase in blood pressure.
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You're looking at one 20 over 80.
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You, you don't want having a full
bladder to get you up to 1 25, right?
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Come on, we, we can talk here.
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I'm your doctor.
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We can talk.
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You don't want that, right?
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. Basic stuff.
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Basic stuff, and we want you
to do this every single time.
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every single time.
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Okay.
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Number three, sit with your back
straight in a chair, feet on the floor.
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Okay.
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Uh, and, and just, just sit there.
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You, we want you to have a certain posture
as you measure your blood pressure.
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Number four, rest quietly at least five
minutes before we take your reading.
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Remember you just jumped off the
exercise bike and you're rushing
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to take your blood pressure?
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No, no, no.
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Stop, stop.
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Just sit and think about something.
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For you wives, think about your husband.
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For you husbands, think about your wife.
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I want you to relax.
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Oh my goodness.
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Think about whatever.
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Whatever relaxes you.
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You don't have to tell me.
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You don't have to tell me.
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I don't want to know.
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But you want to be in a quiet place
mentally, at least five minutes before
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you take your blood pressure, right?
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Because what you're doing is
you're settling everything
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down, selling everything down.
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I, I went to one of the podcasts we did
and we're going to do another one on it.
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I talk about the prefrontal cortex,
that's the head, the brain, the prefrontal
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cortex is where the forehead is.
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But if you go into the brain,
that, that's what we call the,
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the executive center of the body.
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That's where you do your thinking.
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That, that's what tells you when
to speak, when not to speak,
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whatever, whatever, whatever.
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The whole purpose of you resting for
five minutes is for that prefrontal
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cortex to settle everything down.
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It's like, you know, with family, you
tell all the kids, okay, everybody
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be quiet, everybody be quiet.
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Five minutes, five minutes,
everybody be quiet.
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Why?
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Because you want the best.
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possible blood pressure
number when you check it.
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Does that make sense?
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You, you want it to be most accurate
and the best possible number.
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The last thing you want is to have
it be artificially high and then
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that worries you and scares you
and so then it goes even higher.
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Does that make sense?
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Okay.
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So again, these, this is control.
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This is control of you now
and, and, and throughout the
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leadership, we, we don't try to.
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Uh, give you advice about, uh, how to
control others, we're talking about you
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controlling you, you controlling you.
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And that's in the prefrontal
cortex of the brain, right?
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And that says, no, I'm not going
there, I'm not going to say
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that, I'm thinking it, but I'm
not going to say it, all right?
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You know, that, that's the conversation
that you have, and that occurs in
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that prefrontal cortex of the brain.
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You know, and, you know, the
id, the ego, and the superego.
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The id is, is self, self, self.
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The ego is the rational part.
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The superego is what I
call the Holy Spirit.
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What, what, uh, Robin Collins
calls the Holy Spirit.
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Uh, okay.
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Uh, and, and my point is, you know, it's
like, there's the middle you, there's
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the selfish you, there's the bad you and
the good you, then you're in the middle.
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If that makes sense, okay?
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And the good you is the Holy Spirit.
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I mean, God says, I'm going
to leave that with you.
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You know, I'm not going
to leave you by yourself.
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You will have something
that you can call on 24 7.
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24 7.
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Let's see what we got to use it.
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We can't just leave it in the
corner, that's, okay, I don't want
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to, so, that was number three.
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Number four, no, number four
was resting for five minutes.
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Number five, do not talk, move.
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text before you take your blood pressure.
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Do not sit there with your cell
phone, you know, and you're sitting
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there with the thing on your arm,
you get a text, and you're doing
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this, you're not, no, don't do that,
don't do that, don't do that, right?
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And for obvious reasons, because you,
you get a text, you're not paying
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attention, and already you, you're
alert, and you're thinking, because
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you got to respond, so don't do that.
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Um, and finally, if your blood
pressure is above 120 over 80,
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stand up and take it again.
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Because you notice, if you go into your
doctor's office, and I'll just use it
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again, Kaiser, you go into Kaiser's
office, and your blood pressure is 120
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over 80, first thing the nurse is going
to do is say, well why don't we have
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you stand up and let's take it again.
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Most of the times.
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When you stand up, it'll drop.
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Okay.
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Most of the times when you
stand up, it'll drop a bit.
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Why?
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Because this is a continuous process.
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It is not one way, 24 seven.
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And that's what's confusing
for most regular people.
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So I don't understand why this
because it's always moving.
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It's always moving.
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Right?
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So what you want to do is
take control of all that.
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Take control of it because it's your body.
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Okay.
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Now a lot of stuff you can't control.
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You can't control other people.
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You can't do any of that.
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But you can control you.
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You can control you, right?
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Because you're responsible for you.
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So remember those things.
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And again, I encourage you to go to the
church website and just copy that slide.
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If you don't copy anything else.
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And if you need more information,
just sort of check out.
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Now, real quick, don't
want to take too much time.
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Blood pressure equipment.
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Now, I, I graduated from
medical school in 1973.
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And I remember when we used
to take blood pressure, that
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was the blood pressure cuff.
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That's the thing you wrap around your arm.
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That was a stethoscope, you know.
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That was this little thing
that you would squeeze.
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You know, you can see the picture.
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That's in the doctor's hand.
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You're squeezing this little thing.
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And, you know, squeezing
the pressure as it goes up.
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And then you slowly let it
out and it comes back down.
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And you watch the thing
flick and flick and flick.
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Don't use that.
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A lot of blood.
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Now, your blood pressure
should have only two pieces.
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There's the cuff that goes around
your arm and it has a tube, and
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then there's the little machine,
that's the little white thing.
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You just plug it into the machine, push
a button, that's all you do, right?
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So, you can go to the
pharmacy and get one.
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They're usually not that expensive, about
20 or 30 bucks if you don't have one.
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Uh, if you have one that's old, I
would encourage you to update it,
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because the last thing you want is
to have your blood pressure measured
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by a machine that's not affected.
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Because you want it to
be accurate, is my point.
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You don't want a mistaken
blood pressure, okay?
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And, uh, so you, you don't need to set
the scope, you don't need to do the
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self inflating because when you push
the button, it automatically inflates.
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Uh, and then, and it, it does everything
else by itself, and then it goes
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down, and then it gives you a reading.
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And usually it saves the reading
at the bottom of the machine, okay?
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So that's all you need to do.
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Simplicity.
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If there's anything I've learned in my
76 years, simplicity is always better.
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Whenever things get complicated,
there's usually a problem there.
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You know what I mean?
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Life should be simple.
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It should be simple.
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Okay.
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Remember to get your regular
checkups and that sort of thing.
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Um, uh, and as I mentioned before,
blood pressure can be inherited.
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So if you have it, it does
not mean you're a bad person.
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And I, I, I mentioned this and I know
it may seem like a bit much, but a large
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percentage of my patients, certainly
when I had my office, uh, were from St.
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Stephen's or a number
of them were from St.
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Stephen's.
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And, and what I find was we
Christians tend to be, we
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tend to beat up on ourselves.
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You know, we tend to think that,
well, you know, if I just really
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prayed a little harder, my blood
pressure would be under control.
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No.
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Doesn't work that way.
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It doesn't.
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So, whatever your health condition
is, it is not a barometer of
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your level of Christianity.
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It is not.
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The two are separate, okay?
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Okay, just what we talked about before.
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Some of the symptoms that may occur,
uh, with high blood pressure, headaches,
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chest pain, blood in the urine, shortness
of breath, um, vomiting, palpitations,
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dizziness, blurred vision, nosebleeds.
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Most of the times, most people
don't get these symptoms.
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Most of the times, most
people don't get them.
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Some do.
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But most do not, which is why
you cannot rely on symptomatology
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to tell you how controlled your
blood pressure is or is not.
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Treatment of the problem.
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It is individual because each of
us is uniquely, uh, individual.
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Uh, lifestyle considerations
are very important.
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Um, it is important that you have
regular checkups with your physician.
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Um, and always coordinate
with, with the physician.
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But I believe, and, and a big part of
these Masterclass series and podcasts
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is that we have control over ourselves.
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And I think that that's the one
untapped area of healthcare, is that
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we want to do all these things and
tell patients, go here, go there,
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instead of saying, you know what, you,
you can actually do this yourself.
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And if you can do it yourself,
you're going to be better at doing it
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than I am, you know, because you're
going to be more motivated to do it.
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And clearly, blood pressure
is one of those things.
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Again, just some basic things
about, uh, blood pressure
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management, pretty much everything
has to do with diet and exercise.
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If you exercise, that helps
to lower your blood pressure.
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If you eat properly, low salt types of
foods, and most of you are familiar with
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it, or you can sort of look it up, that
helps to control your blood pressure.
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So there are a lot of
other aggregate things.
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That can, that can participate with that,
but you start with the intentionality
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of the prefrontal cortex of the brain.
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I am going to do this
because I need to do this.
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Period.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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It is because of the very base, very
variability of blood pressure is that
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it makes the treatment more complex.
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On the left side here, there
are different, many different
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types of medications.
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Uh, to treat blood pressure.
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And indeed, if you have blood
pressure, uh, I'm going to submit
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that you're probably on more
than one medication right now.
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You might be on a water pill, you might
be on a calcium blocker, you might
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be on an ACE inhibitor, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Don't worry about all that.
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Don't worry about all that.
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Take your medication as prescribed.
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Alright.
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Um, and do not, do not say, well,
you know, I feel okay today.
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I don't think I need to take
that blood pressure stuff.
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I feel good.
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No, no, no.
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Take it every single day.
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And if, when you put on new medication,
if it bothers you, um, say you put on
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a water pill, but now you have to get
up every hour to go to bed and you say,
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you know, I can't even sleep at night.
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This is what the, tell your doctor
and have him or her to change it.
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There are almost a hundred
types of blood pressure pills.
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So they can change it and
find the right one for you.
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If your doctor is lazy and he or she
will not listen to you, change doctors.
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Real something.
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Remember, you're in charge.
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It's your body, right?
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You're in charge.
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And if there's anything that I have
learned, and I, I will, I would
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definitely tell you that, you know,
back in the 70s when, when, when I came
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out of medical school, the philosophy
was sort of Yale and other places
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that we, the doctor, are in charge.
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You do what I say.
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Don't, don't ask me questions.
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Just do what I say.
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All right.
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And what I learned, and this falls under
the category of what my patients have
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taught me over the last 50 plus years.
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It's that, that's not always
the best care to give people.
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The best care is where there's a
partnership between me and that patient.
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And I said, okay, Mrs.
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Smith, uh, I'm going to
suggest you do A, B and C.
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Uh, do you understand?
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And Mrs.
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Smith says, okay, uh, if I don't get Mrs.
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Smith's agreement, I can
prescribe all the stuff I want.
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She may or may not take it
depending on how she feels about me.
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Right?
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Right?
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So am I helping her?
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No, I'm not.
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I'm not helping her.
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My goal is to help her.
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I need to do what I should do.
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I'm, I'm theoretically the
healthcare professional.
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So I need to meet her where she is.
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Um, one of the things we used to tell
medical students, uh, um, when they
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would come and they'd say, Oh, Dr.
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Charter, I just don't know
what's going on with this guy.
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You know, I went over the stuff, but
he says it's still whatever, whatever.
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And I would say, go back again.
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Because you've obviously missed something.
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And what they used to tell
us is, listen to the patient.
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She's telling you what the problem is.
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You aren't hearing her.
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And so if, if, if it's not
working, you need to go back.
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It's not her fault.
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She's not the doctor.
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She's not supposed to know.
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Your job is to go back again and
again and again and again and
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again until you get it right.
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Until you get it right.
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Okay.
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Same, same thing with
the, with the medication.
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Um, everybody knows this.
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Well, let me say it again.
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Never take other people's medication.
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Alright, you run out of your medication
because the prescription didn't arrive
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and you forgot to go to the pharmacy
and you say, well, you know, my husband
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has, um, um, um, a hydrochlorothiazide,
you know, I just take one of his
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tablets, you know, it's the same
25 milligrams, no, don't do that.
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Don't do that.
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Okay.
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Um, uh, so make sure, uh, if, if
you get your medication in the
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mail, um, uh, do it ahead of time.
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And make sure you like a time
ahead, you know, depending on
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what, what service you use.
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But you don't want to run out if you're
going to go out of town, make sure
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you have enough medication with you if
you're going on a trip or somewhere.
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In summary, hypertension is a
very common medical problem.
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It is probably the one of the most common.
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Serious medical problems.
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Patients are often treated
with multiple medications.
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We talked about that.
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I would say the single most important
thing is for you to accurately
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measure your blood pressure at home.
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Because the reality is, this is
also what my patients have taught
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me over the last 50 years, it is a
partnership between doctor and patient.
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It is a partnership, or
healthcare team and patient.
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It is a partnership.
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We used to just say, well,
we'll just tell them what to do.
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That's all they do.
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That's not good enough.
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That's not good enough.
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Because if I tell you what to
do, and if I'm a jerk, why,
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why would you listen to me?
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You know, and I said, you know, that
guy, my husband was sitting in the room
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and he didn't even speak to my husband.
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My husband was sitting right there.
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He didn't even speak to him.
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He just started talking to him.
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He acted like my husband
was a piece of work.
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Why shouldn't I trust him?
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You know, and so why are you
looking for somebody that you
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don't take the medication and
then you end up suffering, right?
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Um, so, so keep that in mind.
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Um, uh, it's important that when you
get your blood pressure cuff, I mean
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your blood pressure machine, take it
with you to your next doctor's visit.
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And have them to check out
your blood pressure machine.
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Now, most of them are pretty basic, but
just to make sure that it's accurate.
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Just make sure that it's accurate.
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Okay.
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And then that there's no downside
and they'll be happy to do it.
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There's no downside to do that.
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Um, and always, if you have a question.
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Always call the doctor or email
the doctor, whatever way you
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communicate to your health care team.
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One of the things I always like, because
again, you're a leadership masterclass, is
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to make sure that you always do your own
research, in addition to what we say here.
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And these are just search things
you can put in your search engine,
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on your phone, on your PC at home.
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Yale Health, Kaiser Permanente, which
is local, Harvard Health, Mayo Clinic.
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Just, you'll look up high blood
pressure, uh, at the Mayo Clinic.
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They'll tell you what I just
said, but that just reinforces
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your knowledge and your skill
base, um, as, as you review stuff.
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Um, I always like to end up, uh,
going over my basic principles.
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Um, number one, God is in charge.
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God is in charge of my
life and as a physician.
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Um, I learned this many, many years ago.
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Um, and, uh, I would encourage you
if you are blessed to be a person of
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faith, and if you believe, um, that
is a huge part of your health care,
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and that will help you, uh, as, as
you have to deal with other things.
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Second thing, I don't have bad days.
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Uh, I've said many times before, I used to
have bad days up until about 30 years ago,
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and about 30 years ago, I figured out.
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That my days were good or
bad if I said they were bad.
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If it's raining outside and
I say, oh, that's such a bad
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day, then it's a bad day.
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If it's raining outside and I
say, oh, what a beautiful day,
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then it's a beautiful day.
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So I decided I'd had
enough bad days in my life.
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And so I eliminated them all.
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My point is, if I can
do it, you can do it.
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That if you, if you get up
and, and Saturday's a bad day.
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Eliminate it, because you have that power,
because that's, that's you, that has
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nothing to do with anybody else, and you
can control how you feel, and what you
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believe, just by what you tell yourself.
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And so, so use that power.
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Don't sweat the small stuff, most
stuff is small, I have learned.
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That most of the times when you think
something negative, I'll make it
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spit, when I think something negative
about something that's happened or
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something somebody says, I am wrong.
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Most of the times, I am wrong.
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And most of the times, even if I'm
right, it doesn't matter anyway.
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00:23:35,564 --> 00:23:35,804
Right?
475
00:23:35,805 --> 00:23:36,485
It's little.
476
00:23:36,514 --> 00:23:37,484
It's small.
477
00:23:37,564 --> 00:23:38,695
I don't care.
478
00:23:39,044 --> 00:23:40,495
So I say, you know what?
479
00:23:40,505 --> 00:23:41,745
I just let that stuff go.
480
00:23:41,804 --> 00:23:42,545
I just let it go.
481
00:23:42,554 --> 00:23:43,165
Let it go.
482
00:23:43,595 --> 00:23:46,820
Um, Number four, forgiveness is therapy.
483
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:51,320
Similar to number three, somebody
says something to you, uses a certain
484
00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:57,639
tone that offends you, does something
to you, forgive them instantly.
485
00:23:57,660 --> 00:24:00,609
Don't think about it, because if
you think about it, you won't do it.
486
00:24:01,780 --> 00:24:04,340
You won't, you'll talk yourself out of it.
487
00:24:04,639 --> 00:24:06,429
Say, no, I don't like
the way she looked at me.
488
00:24:06,469 --> 00:24:07,189
No, no, no.
489
00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:09,639
No, just say, God, I forgive them.
490
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:10,599
God bless you.
491
00:24:10,729 --> 00:24:13,909
Have a great day or whatever,
whatever, but forgive them.
492
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,080
And you will find that that
is therapeutic for you.
493
00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:19,250
Because what are we talking about?
494
00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:21,080
Only you can control you.
495
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:23,439
Nobody's going to help you with this.
496
00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:24,409
Not really.
497
00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:27,189
They can give you advice,
but it's still up to you.
498
00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,950
But if you have that power, use it.
499
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:30,879
Okay.
500
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Um, and, and the fifth thing,
uh, and I say this all the time,
501
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,020
definitely I've learned this,
everything is a relationship.
502
00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:44,130
This is a relationship between me and you.
503
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,810
It's a relationship.
504
00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:50,449
Relationships are based on three
things, mutual respect, mutual
505
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:53,239
trust, good communication.
506
00:24:53,774 --> 00:24:56,445
If you have those three things,
you have a great relationship.
507
00:24:56,775 --> 00:25:00,114
I don't care whether it's boyfriend,
girlfriend, husband, wife, son,
508
00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:04,214
daughter, I mean, son, father,
whatever, whatever, whatever.
509
00:25:04,565 --> 00:25:08,674
Uh, but if you don't have those
three things, then you've got some
510
00:25:08,685 --> 00:25:10,725
work to do with that relationship.
511
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:14,635
One of the things, and I
think, um, I think it was Jesse
512
00:25:14,635 --> 00:25:16,794
that mentioned, um, um, St.
513
00:25:16,794 --> 00:25:22,485
Stephen's very graciously, um,
has, Place information about
514
00:25:22,745 --> 00:25:26,145
the Leadership Masterclass on
their website, on the website.
515
00:25:26,585 --> 00:25:30,154
Um, um, Shelley Shaw and the
team, Pastor Dockery, and so
516
00:25:30,155 --> 00:25:32,655
we're very appreciative of that.
517
00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:34,454
But my point is, you have access.
518
00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:38,960
If you say, oh, you know, that guy
was talking so fast, I didn't listen
519
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,449
to half of what he said, you can go
back to the website and look it up.
520
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:50,199
And as I said, as of a month ago, um,
Shelley even has the, the PowerPoint.
521
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:52,340
This PowerPoint is on the website.
522
00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:53,880
Scroll all the way down to the bottom.
523
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,280
That's on the events.
524
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480
You have to go on the events,
not ministries, on the events.
525
00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:59,550
Scroll all the way down to Masterclass.
526
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:00,560
It's in red.
527
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,710
Um, and, um, and you can find that.
528
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:08,310
And also the podcasts, uh,
are on the, on the ministries.
529
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,500
Scroll all the way down.
530
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,960
And every single podcast
is on the website.
531
00:26:13,369 --> 00:26:14,330
Just click the button.
532
00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:21,310
Well, one of my favorite podcasts
is, um, um, um, Casey Davis.
533
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,290
Casey Davis, 10 years old, 10 years
old, I've done, I've done a number
534
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:29,340
of interviews, but that's one of
the favorite interviews that I did.
535
00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:33,529
Um, she was recommended to me by her
Sunday school teacher, so she talked
536
00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:36,090
to her, and she was talking about,
oh, this, this, this, this kid is
537
00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:39,240
just, just outstanding, and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, and she's
538
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,049
just this, this, I said, really?
539
00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:43,730
I said, you know, leadership
can come at any age.
540
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,870
You don't have to be 80 to be a leader 10
years old and and once she started talking
541
00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,149
I immediately understood I said, I get it.
542
00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:53,919
I get it.
543
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:55,759
I said, so have you thought about college?
544
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,900
She said, oh, yes I said, really?
545
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,390
What, what, what colleges
are you thinking about?
546
00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:02,910
She ran down a list of 10 years old.
547
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:08,009
How many 10 years old do you know can
tell you what college they want to go to?
548
00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:09,010
Think about that.
549
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,730
I'll just leave that thought with you.
550
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,430
But anyway, my point
is, it's on the website.
551
00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:17,445
Um, and just go, it's, it's what
we call an embeddable player.
552
00:27:17,685 --> 00:27:20,735
You can listen to it on the website,
just, just click the button, and
553
00:27:20,735 --> 00:27:22,214
it'll, it'll just go through it.
554
00:27:22,475 --> 00:27:25,754
Uh, you can, you can listen
to all the interviews, um, um,
555
00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:30,844
Pastor Rivas, uh, not Rivas, he's
coming up, but Pastor, um, Rivas.
556
00:27:32,145 --> 00:27:33,205
Thank you, Francis.
557
00:27:33,225 --> 00:27:34,025
That's what I was thinking about.
558
00:27:34,025 --> 00:27:40,004
Thank you, Pastor Francis, Pastor
Nickens, um, a number, Pastor Dockery,
559
00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:46,074
thank you, actually, the man, sir,
and his podcast is done in December.
560
00:27:46,705 --> 00:27:47,475
He was still there.
561
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:48,485
Fascinating.
562
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:49,955
You really should listen to that.
563
00:27:49,955 --> 00:27:56,295
He talks about how the ministry, um, and
the military sort of shaped his life.
564
00:27:56,324 --> 00:27:59,655
Stuff I didn't know, but it's,
it was, it was outstanding, um,
565
00:27:59,685 --> 00:28:00,975
and just spotlighting leaders.
566
00:28:01,175 --> 00:28:02,875
Seneca, I would encourage you to do that.
567
00:28:03,065 --> 00:28:07,335
And finally, as we always like to say, be
the change you want to see in the world.