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April 15, 2024

Blood Pressure Monitors: Ditch the Stethoscope, Get Digital!

Blood Pressure Monitors: Ditch the Stethoscope, Get Digital!

Outdated blood pressure cuffs got you down? This podcast explores the benefits of modern, digital blood pressure monitors. Learn how to choose the right device for accurate and convenient home measurements.

Outdated blood pressure cuffs got you down? This podcast explores the benefits of modern, digital blood pressure monitors. Learn how to choose the right device for accurate and convenient home measurements.

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So let's, let's go to, um,
how, how you do this at home.

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And again, I'm going to go over the
numbers again, because again, it's, it's,

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it's, I understand that it's confusing.

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Uh, the number you want
to keep in mind is one 20.

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over 80.

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Now this is another chart that basically
shows you what I was showing before.

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So I don't, you don't have to go into
a lot of detail with it, but what, what

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you do want to know is find the 120
over 80 and that's where you want to be.

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But as we said before, as we get older,
that blood pressure creeps up, right?

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So, uh, your blood pressure at
70 is going to be higher than it

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was at 20 or 30, just normally.

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Doesn't mean you're a bad person,
and let, let, let me address this.

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One of the things that I tried
very hard with my patients is to

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have them eliminate the guilt.

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You, you will be amazed at how.

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Patients feel guilty.

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Now, that's not just because
they do it themselves.

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People say, well, you should have
done so and so and so and so.

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That's why your blood pressure is so high.

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And if you didn't do, you know, that
we, we make each other feel guilty.

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You know, husbands make wives feel guilty.

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Wives make husbands feel
guilty on and on and on and on.

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Get away, let go of the guilt.

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It just makes the blood pressure worse.

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So care about the guilt.

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We're all human.

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We're all makes mistakes.

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We're not perfect.

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It's okay.

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You don't have to be perfect.

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It's okay.

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God made it us the way we
are and he, he is perfect.

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So it's okay.

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Uh, so, so, so don't
worry about the guilt.

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We particularly see that with
obesity where, where people

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feel I must be a bad person.

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That's why I can't control my, my diet.

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It's not true necessarily.

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And a lot of times this stuff is genetic.

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As a matter of fact, your blood
pressure may not be because

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you did something wrong.

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You may have gotten that from mom and
dad or grandma and granddad, right?

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So it's not your fault.

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So if you blame yourself
for stuff, let that go.

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Just, just, just let that go.

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It's not worth it.

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And indeed, the more you blame
yourself, the higher it makes

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your blood pressure anyway, right?

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So that you can do really easily.

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All right, so this I found was golden,
and I, I, I researched every single

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topic that I'm going to talk about
multiple times, even though I think

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I know it, but I still research it.

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And I found this list that I
just thought was excellent.

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What this does is that it tells you how
to measure your blood pressure at home.

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How to measure your
blood pressure at home.

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How many times have you gone to the
doctor and had him or her to give you

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instructions, specific instructions,
about what you should do at home

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to measure your blood pressure?

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Most times they don't, they'll just say,
well, you take it and you put it here

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and you make sure you squeeze it and
the whole thing and, and if it's this,

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it's I've not called me or whatever.

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So, so we're going to go over this.

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Number one, do not drink caffeine,
smoke, exercise at least once a day.

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30 minutes before you take your
blood pressure, don't, don't jump

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up on your, your exercise bike.

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So, oh my goodness, I got an
appointment at six o'clock and I got

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to hurry up and, oh, I need to run
and take my blood pressure before

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I go to my, no, don't do that.

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Do not do that, right, right,
because your blood pressure is going

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to be high and then you're going
to really get upset, oh my God.

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And that's just going
to make it higher, okay?

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So, let me go over number one.

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And if you don't remember any slide that
I presented today, remember this slide.

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Remember this slide.

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And let me also say, God bless Shelly,
who now puts this on the website.

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puts this on the church website.

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It's on your church website.

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SDSBC.

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It's on your church website.

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Uh, and if you see, it's on the events.

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It's on the events, uh, the
Hoblock personal lecture today.

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Scroll down and the PowerPoint is there.

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It's at the bottom of the page.

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And so it's there.

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But, but, but please remember this.

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So again, don't drink caffeine.

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Why?

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Because caffeine is a stimulant.

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I love coffee.

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Caffeine is a stimulant.

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30 minutes before you
check your blood pressure.

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You can drink your coffee, but
just don't do it before that.

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Don't smoke, exercise at
least 30 minutes before that.

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Number two.

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Empty your bladder before
you take your blood pressure.

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Seems simple, but, but many times it can
add to an increase in blood pressure.

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You're looking at one 20 over 80.

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You, you don't want having a full
bladder to get you up to 1 25, right?

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Come on, we, we can talk here.

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I'm your doctor.

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We can talk.

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You don't want that, right?

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. Basic stuff.

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Basic stuff, and we want you
to do this every single time.

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every single time.

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Okay.

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Number three, sit with your back
straight in a chair, feet on the floor.

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Okay.

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Uh, and, and just, just sit there.

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You, we want you to have a certain posture
as you measure your blood pressure.

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Number four, rest quietly at least five
minutes before we take your reading.

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Remember you just jumped off the
exercise bike and you're rushing

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to take your blood pressure?

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No, no, no.

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Stop, stop.

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Just sit and think about something.

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For you wives, think about your husband.

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For you husbands, think about your wife.

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I want you to relax.

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Oh my goodness.

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Think about whatever.

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Whatever relaxes you.

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You don't have to tell me.

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You don't have to tell me.

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I don't want to know.

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But you want to be in a quiet place
mentally, at least five minutes before

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you take your blood pressure, right?

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Because what you're doing is
you're settling everything

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down, selling everything down.

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I, I went to one of the podcasts we did
and we're going to do another one on it.

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I talk about the prefrontal cortex,
that's the head, the brain, the prefrontal

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cortex is where the forehead is.

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But if you go into the brain,
that, that's what we call the,

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the executive center of the body.

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That's where you do your thinking.

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That, that's what tells you when
to speak, when not to speak,

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whatever, whatever, whatever.

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The whole purpose of you resting for
five minutes is for that prefrontal

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cortex to settle everything down.

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It's like, you know, with family, you
tell all the kids, okay, everybody

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be quiet, everybody be quiet.

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Five minutes, five minutes,
everybody be quiet.

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Why?

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Because you want the best.

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possible blood pressure
number when you check it.

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Does that make sense?

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You, you want it to be most accurate
and the best possible number.

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The last thing you want is to have
it be artificially high and then

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that worries you and scares you
and so then it goes even higher.

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Does that make sense?

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Okay.

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So again, these, this is control.

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This is control of you now
and, and, and throughout the

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leadership, we, we don't try to.

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Uh, give you advice about, uh, how to
control others, we're talking about you

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controlling you, you controlling you.

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And that's in the prefrontal
cortex of the brain, right?

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And that says, no, I'm not going
there, I'm not going to say

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that, I'm thinking it, but I'm
not going to say it, all right?

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You know, that, that's the conversation
that you have, and that occurs in

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that prefrontal cortex of the brain.

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You know, and, you know, the
id, the ego, and the superego.

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The id is, is self, self, self.

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The ego is the rational part.

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The superego is what I
call the Holy Spirit.

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What, what, uh, Robin Collins
calls the Holy Spirit.

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Uh, okay.

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Uh, and, and my point is, you know, it's
like, there's the middle you, there's

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the selfish you, there's the bad you and
the good you, then you're in the middle.

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If that makes sense, okay?

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And the good you is the Holy Spirit.

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I mean, God says, I'm going
to leave that with you.

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You know, I'm not going
to leave you by yourself.

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You will have something
that you can call on 24 7.

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24 7.

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Let's see what we got to use it.

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We can't just leave it in the
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to, so, that was number three.

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Number four, no, number four
was resting for five minutes.

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Number five, do not talk, move.

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text before you take your blood pressure.

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Do not sit there with your cell
phone, you know, and you're sitting

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there with the thing on your arm,
you get a text, and you're doing

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this, you're not, no, don't do that,
don't do that, don't do that, right?

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And for obvious reasons, because you,
you get a text, you're not paying

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attention, and already you, you're
alert, and you're thinking, because

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you got to respond, so don't do that.

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Um, and finally, if your blood
pressure is above 120 over 80,

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stand up and take it again.

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Because you notice, if you go into your
doctor's office, and I'll just use it

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again, Kaiser, you go into Kaiser's
office, and your blood pressure is 120

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over 80, first thing the nurse is going
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you stand up and let's take it again.

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Most of the times.

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When you stand up, it'll drop.

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Okay.

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Most of the times when you
stand up, it'll drop a bit.

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Why?

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Because this is a continuous process.

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It is not one way, 24 seven.

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And that's what's confusing
for most regular people.

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So I don't understand why this
because it's always moving.

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It's always moving.

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Right?

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So what you want to do is
take control of all that.

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Take control of it because it's your body.

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Okay.

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Now a lot of stuff you can't control.

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You can't control other people.

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You can't do any of that.

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But you can control you.

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You can control you, right?

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Because you're responsible for you.

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So remember those things.

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And again, I encourage you to go to the
church website and just copy that slide.

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If you don't copy anything else.

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And if you need more information,
just sort of check out.

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Now, real quick, don't
want to take too much time.

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Blood pressure equipment.

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Now, I, I graduated from
medical school in 1973.

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And I remember when we used
to take blood pressure, that

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was the blood pressure cuff.

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That's the thing you wrap around your arm.

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That was a stethoscope, you know.

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That was this little thing
that you would squeeze.

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You know, you can see the picture.

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That's in the doctor's hand.

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You're squeezing this little thing.

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And, you know, squeezing
the pressure as it goes up.

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And then you slowly let it
out and it comes back down.

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And you watch the thing
flick and flick and flick.

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Don't use that.

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A lot of blood.

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Now, your blood pressure
should have only two pieces.

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There's the cuff that goes around
your arm and it has a tube, and

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then there's the little machine,
that's the little white thing.

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You just plug it into the machine, push
a button, that's all you do, right?

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So, you can go to the
pharmacy and get one.

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They're usually not that expensive, about
20 or 30 bucks if you don't have one.

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Uh, if you have one that's old, I
would encourage you to update it,

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because the last thing you want is
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by a machine that's not affected.

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Because you want it to
be accurate, is my point.

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You don't want a mistaken
blood pressure, okay?

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And, uh, so you, you don't need to set
the scope, you don't need to do the

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self inflating because when you push
the button, it automatically inflates.

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Uh, and then, and it, it does everything
else by itself, and then it goes

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down, and then it gives you a reading.

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And usually it saves the reading
at the bottom of the machine, okay?

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So that's all you need to do.

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Simplicity.

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If there's anything I've learned in my
76 years, simplicity is always better.

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Whenever things get complicated,
there's usually a problem there.

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You know what I mean?

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Life should be simple.

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It should be simple.

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Okay.

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Remember to get your regular
checkups and that sort of thing.

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Um, uh, and as I mentioned before,
blood pressure can be inherited.

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So if you have it, it does
not mean you're a bad person.

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And I, I, I mentioned this and I know
it may seem like a bit much, but a large

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percentage of my patients, certainly
when I had my office, uh, were from St.

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Stephen's or a number
of them were from St.

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Stephen's.

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And, and what I find was we
Christians tend to be, we

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tend to beat up on ourselves.

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You know, we tend to think that,
well, you know, if I just really

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prayed a little harder, my blood
pressure would be under control.

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Doesn't work that way.

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It doesn't.

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So, whatever your health condition
is, it is not a barometer of

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your level of Christianity.

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It is not.

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The two are separate, okay?

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Okay, just what we talked about before.

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Some of the symptoms that may occur,
uh, with high blood pressure, headaches,

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chest pain, blood in the urine, shortness
of breath, um, vomiting, palpitations,

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dizziness, blurred vision, nosebleeds.

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Most of the times, most people
don't get these symptoms.

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Most of the times, most
people don't get them.

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Some do.

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But most do not, which is why
you cannot rely on symptomatology

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to tell you how controlled your
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Treatment of the problem.

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It is individual because each of
us is uniquely, uh, individual.

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Uh, lifestyle considerations
are very important.

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Um, it is important that you have
regular checkups with your physician.

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Um, and always coordinate
with, with the physician.

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But I believe, and, and a big part of
these Masterclass series and podcasts

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is that we have control over ourselves.

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And I think that that's the one
untapped area of healthcare, is that

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we want to do all these things and
tell patients, go here, go there,

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instead of saying, you know what, you,
you can actually do this yourself.

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And if you can do it yourself,
you're going to be better at doing it

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than I am, you know, because you're
going to be more motivated to do it.

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And clearly, blood pressure
is one of those things.

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Again, just some basic things
about, uh, blood pressure

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management, pretty much everything
has to do with diet and exercise.

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If you exercise, that helps
to lower your blood pressure.

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If you eat properly, low salt types of
foods, and most of you are familiar with

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it, or you can sort of look it up, that
helps to control your blood pressure.

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So there are a lot of
other aggregate things.

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That can, that can participate with that,
but you start with the intentionality

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of the prefrontal cortex of the brain.

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I am going to do this
because I need to do this.

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Period.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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It is because of the very base, very
variability of blood pressure is that

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it makes the treatment more complex.

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On the left side here, there
are different, many different

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types of medications.

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Uh, to treat blood pressure.

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And indeed, if you have blood
pressure, uh, I'm going to submit

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that you're probably on more
than one medication right now.

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You might be on a water pill, you might
be on a calcium blocker, you might

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be on an ACE inhibitor, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Don't worry about all that.

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Don't worry about all that.

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Take your medication as prescribed.

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Alright.

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Um, and do not, do not say, well,
you know, I feel okay today.

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I don't think I need to take
that blood pressure stuff.

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I feel good.

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No, no, no.

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Take it every single day.

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And if, when you put on new medication,
if it bothers you, um, say you put on

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a water pill, but now you have to get
up every hour to go to bed and you say,

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you know, I can't even sleep at night.

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This is what the, tell your doctor
and have him or her to change it.

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There are almost a hundred
types of blood pressure pills.

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So they can change it and
find the right one for you.

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If your doctor is lazy and he or she
will not listen to you, change doctors.

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Real something.

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Remember, you're in charge.

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It's your body, right?

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You're in charge.

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And if there's anything that I have
learned, and I, I will, I would

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definitely tell you that, you know,
back in the 70s when, when, when I came

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out of medical school, the philosophy
was sort of Yale and other places

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that we, the doctor, are in charge.

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You do what I say.

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Don't, don't ask me questions.

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Just do what I say.

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All right.

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And what I learned, and this falls under
the category of what my patients have

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taught me over the last 50 plus years.

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It's that, that's not always
the best care to give people.

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The best care is where there's a
partnership between me and that patient.

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And I said, okay, Mrs.

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Smith, uh, I'm going to
suggest you do A, B and C.

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Uh, do you understand?

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And Mrs.

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Smith says, okay, uh, if I don't get Mrs.

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Smith's agreement, I can
prescribe all the stuff I want.

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She may or may not take it
depending on how she feels about me.

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Right?

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Right?

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So am I helping her?

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No, I'm not.

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I'm not helping her.

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My goal is to help her.

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I need to do what I should do.

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I'm, I'm theoretically the
healthcare professional.

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So I need to meet her where she is.

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Um, one of the things we used to tell
medical students, uh, um, when they

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would come and they'd say, Oh, Dr.

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Charter, I just don't know
what's going on with this guy.

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You know, I went over the stuff, but
he says it's still whatever, whatever.

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And I would say, go back again.

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Because you've obviously missed something.

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And what they used to tell
us is, listen to the patient.

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She's telling you what the problem is.

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You aren't hearing her.

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And so if, if, if it's not
working, you need to go back.

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It's not her fault.

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She's not the doctor.

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She's not supposed to know.

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Your job is to go back again and
again and again and again and

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again until you get it right.

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Until you get it right.

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Okay.

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Same, same thing with
the, with the medication.

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Um, everybody knows this.

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Well, let me say it again.

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Never take other people's medication.

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Alright, you run out of your medication
because the prescription didn't arrive

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and you forgot to go to the pharmacy
and you say, well, you know, my husband

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has, um, um, um, a hydrochlorothiazide,
you know, I just take one of his

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tablets, you know, it's the same
25 milligrams, no, don't do that.

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Don't do that.

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Okay.

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Um, uh, so make sure, uh, if, if
you get your medication in the

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mail, um, uh, do it ahead of time.

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And make sure you like a time
ahead, you know, depending on

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what, what service you use.

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But you don't want to run out if you're
going to go out of town, make sure

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you have enough medication with you if
you're going on a trip or somewhere.

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In summary, hypertension is a
very common medical problem.

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It is probably the one of the most common.

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Serious medical problems.

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Patients are often treated
with multiple medications.

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We talked about that.

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I would say the single most important
thing is for you to accurately

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measure your blood pressure at home.

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Because the reality is, this is
also what my patients have taught

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me over the last 50 years, it is a
partnership between doctor and patient.

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It is a partnership, or
healthcare team and patient.

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It is a partnership.

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We used to just say, well,
we'll just tell them what to do.

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That's all they do.

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That's not good enough.

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That's not good enough.

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Because if I tell you what to
do, and if I'm a jerk, why,

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why would you listen to me?

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You know, and I said, you know, that
guy, my husband was sitting in the room

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and he didn't even speak to my husband.

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My husband was sitting right there.

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He didn't even speak to him.

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He just started talking to him.

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He acted like my husband
was a piece of work.

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Why shouldn't I trust him?

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You know, and so why are you
looking for somebody that you

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don't take the medication and
then you end up suffering, right?

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Um, so, so keep that in mind.

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Um, uh, it's important that when you
get your blood pressure cuff, I mean

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your blood pressure machine, take it
with you to your next doctor's visit.

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And have them to check out
your blood pressure machine.

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Now, most of them are pretty basic, but
just to make sure that it's accurate.

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Just make sure that it's accurate.

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Okay.

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And then that there's no downside
and they'll be happy to do it.

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There's no downside to do that.

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Um, and always, if you have a question.

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Always call the doctor or email
the doctor, whatever way you

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communicate to your health care team.

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One of the things I always like, because
again, you're a leadership masterclass, is

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to make sure that you always do your own
research, in addition to what we say here.

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And these are just search things
you can put in your search engine,

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on your phone, on your PC at home.

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Yale Health, Kaiser Permanente, which
is local, Harvard Health, Mayo Clinic.

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Just, you'll look up high blood
pressure, uh, at the Mayo Clinic.

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They'll tell you what I just
said, but that just reinforces

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your knowledge and your skill
base, um, as, as you review stuff.

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Um, I always like to end up, uh,
going over my basic principles.

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Um, number one, God is in charge.

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God is in charge of my
life and as a physician.

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Um, I learned this many, many years ago.

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Um, and, uh, I would encourage you
if you are blessed to be a person of

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faith, and if you believe, um, that
is a huge part of your health care,

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and that will help you, uh, as, as
you have to deal with other things.

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Second thing, I don't have bad days.

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Uh, I've said many times before, I used to
have bad days up until about 30 years ago,

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and about 30 years ago, I figured out.

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That my days were good or
bad if I said they were bad.

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If it's raining outside and
I say, oh, that's such a bad

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day, then it's a bad day.

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If it's raining outside and I
say, oh, what a beautiful day,

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then it's a beautiful day.

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So I decided I'd had
enough bad days in my life.

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And so I eliminated them all.

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My point is, if I can
do it, you can do it.

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That if you, if you get up
and, and Saturday's a bad day.

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Eliminate it, because you have that power,
because that's, that's you, that has

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nothing to do with anybody else, and you
can control how you feel, and what you

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believe, just by what you tell yourself.

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And so, so use that power.

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Don't sweat the small stuff, most
stuff is small, I have learned.

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That most of the times when you think
something negative, I'll make it

470
00:23:22,445 --> 00:23:26,275
spit, when I think something negative
about something that's happened or

471
00:23:26,275 --> 00:23:28,734
something somebody says, I am wrong.

472
00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:31,385
Most of the times, I am wrong.

473
00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:34,384
And most of the times, even if I'm
right, it doesn't matter anyway.

474
00:23:35,564 --> 00:23:35,804
Right?

475
00:23:35,805 --> 00:23:36,485
It's little.

476
00:23:36,514 --> 00:23:37,484
It's small.

477
00:23:37,564 --> 00:23:38,695
I don't care.

478
00:23:39,044 --> 00:23:40,495
So I say, you know what?

479
00:23:40,505 --> 00:23:41,745
I just let that stuff go.

480
00:23:41,804 --> 00:23:42,545
I just let it go.

481
00:23:42,554 --> 00:23:43,165
Let it go.

482
00:23:43,595 --> 00:23:46,820
Um, Number four, forgiveness is therapy.

483
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:51,320
Similar to number three, somebody
says something to you, uses a certain

484
00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:57,639
tone that offends you, does something
to you, forgive them instantly.

485
00:23:57,660 --> 00:24:00,609
Don't think about it, because if
you think about it, you won't do it.

486
00:24:01,780 --> 00:24:04,340
You won't, you'll talk yourself out of it.

487
00:24:04,639 --> 00:24:06,429
Say, no, I don't like
the way she looked at me.

488
00:24:06,469 --> 00:24:07,189
No, no, no.

489
00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:09,639
No, just say, God, I forgive them.

490
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:10,599
God bless you.

491
00:24:10,729 --> 00:24:13,909
Have a great day or whatever,
whatever, but forgive them.

492
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,080
And you will find that that
is therapeutic for you.

493
00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:19,250
Because what are we talking about?

494
00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:21,080
Only you can control you.

495
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:23,439
Nobody's going to help you with this.

496
00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:24,409
Not really.

497
00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:27,189
They can give you advice,
but it's still up to you.

498
00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,950
But if you have that power, use it.

499
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:30,879
Okay.

500
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Um, and, and the fifth thing,
uh, and I say this all the time,

501
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,020
definitely I've learned this,
everything is a relationship.

502
00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:44,130
This is a relationship between me and you.

503
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,810
It's a relationship.

504
00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:50,449
Relationships are based on three
things, mutual respect, mutual

505
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:53,239
trust, good communication.

506
00:24:53,774 --> 00:24:56,445
If you have those three things,
you have a great relationship.

507
00:24:56,775 --> 00:25:00,114
I don't care whether it's boyfriend,
girlfriend, husband, wife, son,

508
00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:04,214
daughter, I mean, son, father,
whatever, whatever, whatever.

509
00:25:04,565 --> 00:25:08,674
Uh, but if you don't have those
three things, then you've got some

510
00:25:08,685 --> 00:25:10,725
work to do with that relationship.

511
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:14,635
One of the things, and I
think, um, I think it was Jesse

512
00:25:14,635 --> 00:25:16,794
that mentioned, um, um, St.

513
00:25:16,794 --> 00:25:22,485
Stephen's very graciously, um,
has, Place information about

514
00:25:22,745 --> 00:25:26,145
the Leadership Masterclass on
their website, on the website.

515
00:25:26,585 --> 00:25:30,154
Um, um, Shelley Shaw and the
team, Pastor Dockery, and so

516
00:25:30,155 --> 00:25:32,655
we're very appreciative of that.

517
00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:34,454
But my point is, you have access.

518
00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:38,960
If you say, oh, you know, that guy
was talking so fast, I didn't listen

519
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,449
to half of what he said, you can go
back to the website and look it up.

520
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:50,199
And as I said, as of a month ago, um,
Shelley even has the, the PowerPoint.

521
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:52,340
This PowerPoint is on the website.

522
00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:53,880
Scroll all the way down to the bottom.

523
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,280
That's on the events.

524
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480
You have to go on the events,
not ministries, on the events.

525
00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:59,550
Scroll all the way down to Masterclass.

526
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:00,560
It's in red.

527
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,710
Um, and, um, and you can find that.

528
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:08,310
And also the podcasts, uh,
are on the, on the ministries.

529
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,500
Scroll all the way down.

530
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,960
And every single podcast
is on the website.

531
00:26:13,369 --> 00:26:14,330
Just click the button.

532
00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:21,310
Well, one of my favorite podcasts
is, um, um, um, Casey Davis.

533
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,290
Casey Davis, 10 years old, 10 years
old, I've done, I've done a number

534
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:29,340
of interviews, but that's one of
the favorite interviews that I did.

535
00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:33,529
Um, she was recommended to me by her
Sunday school teacher, so she talked

536
00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:36,090
to her, and she was talking about,
oh, this, this, this, this kid is

537
00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:39,240
just, just outstanding, and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, and she's

538
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,049
just this, this, I said, really?

539
00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:43,730
I said, you know, leadership
can come at any age.

540
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,870
You don't have to be 80 to be a leader 10
years old and and once she started talking

541
00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,149
I immediately understood I said, I get it.

542
00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:53,919
I get it.

543
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:55,759
I said, so have you thought about college?

544
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,900
She said, oh, yes I said, really?

545
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,390
What, what, what colleges
are you thinking about?

546
00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:02,910
She ran down a list of 10 years old.

547
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:08,009
How many 10 years old do you know can
tell you what college they want to go to?

548
00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:09,010
Think about that.

549
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,730
I'll just leave that thought with you.

550
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,430
But anyway, my point
is, it's on the website.

551
00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:17,445
Um, and just go, it's, it's what
we call an embeddable player.

552
00:27:17,685 --> 00:27:20,735
You can listen to it on the website,
just, just click the button, and

553
00:27:20,735 --> 00:27:22,214
it'll, it'll just go through it.

554
00:27:22,475 --> 00:27:25,754
Uh, you can, you can listen
to all the interviews, um, um,

555
00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:30,844
Pastor Rivas, uh, not Rivas, he's
coming up, but Pastor, um, Rivas.

556
00:27:32,145 --> 00:27:33,205
Thank you, Francis.

557
00:27:33,225 --> 00:27:34,025
That's what I was thinking about.

558
00:27:34,025 --> 00:27:40,004
Thank you, Pastor Francis, Pastor
Nickens, um, a number, Pastor Dockery,

559
00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:46,074
thank you, actually, the man, sir,
and his podcast is done in December.

560
00:27:46,705 --> 00:27:47,475
He was still there.

561
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:48,485
Fascinating.

562
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:49,955
You really should listen to that.

563
00:27:49,955 --> 00:27:56,295
He talks about how the ministry, um, and
the military sort of shaped his life.

564
00:27:56,324 --> 00:27:59,655
Stuff I didn't know, but it's,
it was, it was outstanding, um,

565
00:27:59,685 --> 00:28:00,975
and just spotlighting leaders.

566
00:28:01,175 --> 00:28:02,875
Seneca, I would encourage you to do that.

567
00:28:03,065 --> 00:28:07,335
And finally, as we always like to say, be
the change you want to see in the world.