Diversity in Medical Trials: Pioneering Approaches for Better Outcomes

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Coming up on this episode of the
Healthy, Wealthy and Wise podcast.

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I'm going to encourage you
to read the book by Dr.

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Anthony Fauci.

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I'm sure everybody knows who Dr.

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Fauci is, but he was the one who had
the courage to speak truth to power.

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You know, people didn't want to hear him.

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He's been in the field a long time.

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I do think, um, yeah, I do
think he's over 80 years old.

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I know there's a lot of talk
about these 80 year old people,

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but maybe we don't want to care.

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Welcome

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to the Healthy, Wealthy,
and Wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD.

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This podcast will provide you with
tools and actionable information

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you can use to help live a more
healthy, wealthy, and wise life.

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It's powered by the over 50 years
of medical experience of this Yale

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University Medical School trained
surgeon, who is also a Western

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State Law School trained attorney.

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Executive experience being a former
mayor of Walnut, California, as well

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as the current chairman of the non
profit Servants Arms, and as president

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of Choctaw Medical Group Incorporated.

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This is the Leadership Masterclass
Edition, already in progress.

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Your

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specific goal.

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Uh, not to belabor the point, so one
of the things that Yale is doing,

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it's another organization too, but I
know about Yale because I get a lot of

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their literature, Uh, is that they're
saying, okay, if we're going to start

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investigating along COVID, we've got to
have a group that represents America.

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Make sense?

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Because we're, you know, everybody
gets it, you know, it's not for

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this group, or that group, or
that group, it's for everybody.

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And so what they're doing, and let me
back up, Participating in these tests,

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um, is very difficult for patients.

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It's very difficult.

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Imagine that you're in pain and you're
sick, but two or three or four times a

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week, you have to go into the hospital for
testing and examination and this and that.

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You know, imagine if you can
afford to do that financially.

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Uh, it's just on, it's
just very, very hard.

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And so you end up selectively
getting a small group that may

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be white Anglo Saxon fathers.

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Because they're the only
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availability to be able to do that.

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So what you always said, you know
what, that's not, that's not going

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to, we're going to go to them.

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We're, we're, we're going to set up
a, a, an evaluation of long COVID.

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But instead of having patients come
to us, which is the traditional way,

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we're going to go to their homes.

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Now you got to have
extra money to do that.

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They, they, they, the people
running the test, and so what

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they did, you know, Joe has money.

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They, they took their money,
wherever they got it from,

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and said, we're coming to you.

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And what does that mean is, that means
that you're going to get a more, you

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have a more diverse group now, right?

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So now whatever you learn from
that diverse group, you can now

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apply it and it's going to be more
effective to people who look like me.

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Okay?

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Which is what you want.

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Because of those three hundred and seventy
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um, at least ten, fifteen percent of them
are African American, another fifteen plus

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percent are Hispanic, another blah blah
blah percent are Asian, I can go on and on

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and on and on, but you, you get my drift.

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You get my drift, right?

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So if you want to do something, To
treat a problem that affects the entire

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country, uh, which, which is, which is
multi ethnic, you've got to have a sample

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group that's also multi ethnic because
you want to have life to treat life.

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And so that, that's one of the things that
folks are doing and, and kudos to doctors.

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from Holtz and Iwasaki, um, and others
in the field who are sort of doing this.

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Um, um, and the other thing about
that trial where they go to the

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homes, not only do you have better
quality, you have better diversity,

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and so you can have a better outcome.

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But the problem is that
these things take a while.

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Now finally, I want to conclude,
uh, with, with a Ha ha!

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With a recommendation, if you want to
have a little light reading, you know,

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you've got a lot of time on your hands.

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I'm going to encourage you
to read the book by Dr.

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Anthony Fauci.

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I'm not sure if everybody knows who Dr.

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Fauci is, but he was the one who
had the courage to just speak

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truth to power, you know, you know,
people didn't want to hear him.

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Uh, he's been in the field a long time.

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Uh, I do think, um, yeah, I do
think he's over 80 years old.

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I know there's a lot of talk
about these 80 year old people,

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but maybe we don't want to kick
them to the curb quite so fast.

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Right?

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Right.

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Cause they, they do
have a lot of knowledge.

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And they do have a lot of skill, and they
learn a lot of stuff, and maybe we just,

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we, we, we, we younger folks just need to
step back a little bit and listen to them.

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But anyway, uh, Dr.

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Fauci, um, is, is an absolute icon
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and certainly was on the forefront
with, um, uh, the coronavirus.

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Fauci has a connection with the St.

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Stephen's men's class, um, back
when, this is, um, January, uh, no,

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this is December 2022, uh, uh, well,
no, let me go back even farther.

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They, they, they, the coronavirus,
I mean, the coronavirus came out,

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uh, around about the 1st of January
2020, uh, January 2020, right.

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Um, and that's when there was all
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us didn't know what was going on and
what to do, 2020, 2021, or whatever.

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And so in the Men's ThunderSpoon class,
uh, there were a lot of questions.

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You know, and we would spend a
lot of time, and our illustrious

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teacher, uh, Reverend Andrew Collins
and Reverend, uh, um, uh, Nickens.

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Uh, they would stop the class and
people would ask questions and

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questions and questions, and there was
a lot of discussion about Tuskegee.

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There was a lot of discussions about, um,
uh, Thorax and all that sort of stuff.

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So Reverend Collins and Reverend
Nickens and the leaders of the class

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decided to say, You know what, we're
going to set up a time every Sunday.

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at the end of the class, about five
minutes, and after we finish with

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the Sunday school class, we're going
to let you ask questions of Dr.

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Choptop.

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And so, uh, uh, Robert Nicklaus
came up with the idea of

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corporate, uh, what do you call it?

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COVID chat with Choptop.

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And so, truly enough, every Sunday, They
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with more than five minutes, they would
say, well what about this, and what about

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that, and I read in the news this, and
I was on the internet, and blah blah

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blah, and I remember saying to a good
friend of mine, stay off the internet.

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So don't, don't go to the internet.

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It's not looking fancy.

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But my point is, it was an effective
way to get us all through that.

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To get us all through that.

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We all helped each other.

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You know, they helped me, I helped them,
back and forth, whatever, whatever.

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And so, that was connected with Fauci.

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You know, because he was the leader.

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He was the one that I was following.

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And then, around about December of
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idea, and I approached Robin Collins.

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About having this, the leadership
massacres, leadership massacres,

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came out of that specifically.

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And, uh, and I mention that, is
to say that if Reverend Carlson

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said no, we wouldn't be here.

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If he had said no, and nobody
would have ever known about it.

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This last year and a half would not
have happened, if he had not said yes.

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We're here, we're here.

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And so my point is that this was a long
journey, and I honestly believe that's

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the way good things in life happen.

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They aren't planned.

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You can't foresee down the road.

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You don't have a clue, but you do what
you think is best and you work with

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somebody who works with somebody who works
with somebody who works with somebody

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and voila, here you are, here you are.

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Um, and, um, and so to finish the
thing about the book, uh, this book

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was given to me by my dear friend.

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Uh, and the chief production
officer, uh, brother, I should say

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reverend, brother Jesse Hammond.

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And he gave it to me
as a father's day gift.

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Huh?

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Huh?

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Isn't that cool?

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So thank you brother Hammond.

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Uh, and again, it just shows, uh,
the type of people, uh, in God's

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service, uh, serving God's people.

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Okay.

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This is, this is the, the, the real stuff.

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Not what people talk about, what you do.

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You know, because I, I'm not
interested in what you talk about,

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I'm interested in what you do.

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What have you done?

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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And we all do different things, and
that's the way it's supposed to be.

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I'm not supposed to be him,
and he's not supposed to be me.

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Let me also say that when I had that
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not that I didn't trust Robin
Collins, I asked other people also.

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I thought, maybe Robin Collins
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So I actually, I asked Robin Reeves.

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And Rutherford said, yeah, I
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And of course, I asked
Rutherford Nickens also.

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Um, but Colin, Rutherford
Collins was first.

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If he had said no, it
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It would have been dead on arrival.

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So thank you, Rutherford Collins.

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Um, and thank you, St.

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for all the help.

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But, but please go out, obviously I
haven't finished the book, but if you want

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a little light read, go out and read Dr.

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Fauci's book.

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But Dr.

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Fauci also has had a huge impact,
uh, with his, uh, his AIDS,

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uh, and he talks about that.

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This is during the Reagan administration,
I know some of you young people don't

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even know who Ronald Reagan was.

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But for those of us in my generation.

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He was a president and was doing
what was called the AIDS crisis.

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And people were saying all sorts of
things like it was God's punishment

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and all that sort of stuff.

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And I said, no, it's not God's
punishment, it's a virus.

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Or it's just a whatever, whatever.

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Uh, and they came up
with a way to cure it.

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And now for the most part, there's
medication that people take.

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That pretty much keeps them
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hear them talk about it anymore.

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It's still there, but you don't
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anymore, because it's much smaller.

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And Fauci, uh, may have a
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In summary, real quick, um, um,
all vaccines, um, Uh, are treated

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with by prevention, um, and, and,
and, and being, being careful.

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Uh, vaccines cause, uh, uh,
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uh, to, uh, fight infections.

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I mean, all infections
basically, uh, can be prevented.

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Um, uh, COVID infections can be
prevented by, uh, using vaccines.

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Vaccines, um, cause the body to
produce antibodies to fight infection.

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Um, remember the virus is airborne.

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It is airborne.

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It is in the air.

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And so we want to take extra
precautions to protect against these

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airborne infections like wearing
masks and doing other things, uh,

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to provide ventilation in your home.

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Uh, if you have central heating
and air, um, particularly put it

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on the on position instead of auto,
uh, particularly if people are

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going to be coming to your house.

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The patients who are 60 and 65 years
of age and above should have boosters

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in addition to the vaccine shot.

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The vaccine shot is just one injection.

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The booster is an additional shot
that these individuals should have.

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My basic principles real quickly and
I say this All the time is that God

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is in charge, and indeed one of the
things that I've learned is that most,

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most if not many of the things that
have happened good in my life, I had

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no idea they were going to happen.

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I couldn't predict them, I didn't see
them coming, um, and, um, uh, and that

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again is because God is in charge.

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As I said before, I do not have bad days.

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I figured out many, many years
ago that my days were good or

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You're over.

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You're gone.

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Uh, and so, um, uh, my, my days are
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So, you know, it's,
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I don't sweat the small stuff,
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I'll observe something, it may rub me
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learned is most times that's just small
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it's not important, and just let it go.

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I'm thinking if you don't
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because it's not important.

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Forgiveness is therapy,
therapy, therapy, therapy.

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Be your own doctor.

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Somebody does or says something to
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or said from your perspective, okay?

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Forgive them.

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Just do it.

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Don't try to figure it out, don't
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Just say, I forgive you.

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God bless you.

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Move on.

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Move on.

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And finally, everything is a relationship.

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Everything is a relationship.

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Relationships are based on three things.

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If you have those three things,
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If you do not, You have work to do.

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about that is the communication.

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People say, well, um, so
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I'll just wait for her to tell me.

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People can't read your mind.

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How do they know what you think?

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He knows I love him.

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You know, I don't have
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Yeah, you do.

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Yeah, you do . You have
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Uh, you know, it, it
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say I love you may very well help them,
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'cause you have no idea of
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'cause they're not gonna tell you.

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to others.

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And maybe one way you can serve
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Have a great day.

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You look nice today or whatever.

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I, you know, but something positive.

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I remember I was in a class one day about,
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example and I may have used it before.

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I'm going to jump off and kill myself.

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But if somebody speaks to me on the way
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Person went and jumped off
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What's my point?

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My point is you don't know
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It's no skin off your nose, but be
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Be loving, be caring, uh, and
you, and, and, and you will

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never know the benefit of that.

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You're not supposed to know.

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It's not about you.

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It's about them.

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So what am I asking you to do?

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I'm asking you to give
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Just give it.

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Just give it.

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Just give it.

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Just give it.

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Don't think about who's going
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Doesn't matter.

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Doesn't matter.

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You just do your part.

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So, for some of you who may miss
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masterclass ends up being a podcast.

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And most of the times in masterclass,
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chief production officer, uh, chief
technical officer, uh, Jesse has so

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many different titles, the podcast, the
podcast professor, you know, whatever

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title you can think of, Jesse has it.

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But that's because he's a busy guy.

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He's a busy guy.

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Seriously, he is.

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But, but, but basically, at the end
of every Mass Effect, he edits it,

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edits them, and it comes up with
two or three podcasts from them.

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Uh, and what we learned when we first
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Collins about a year ago, we used to do
them for an hour plus, and then, then we

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started to read the literature, at least
I started to read the literature, that

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said, you know, most podcast for an hour.

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Maybe 20 minutes, maybe 30
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while they're running around.

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About 20 to 30 minutes.

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Um, so what he does at the
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creates a podcast from them.

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Uh, 20 to 30 minutes.

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stsvc.

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org Go to the church website, uh, click
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scroll down all the way until you see
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and then you will see the podcast.

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It's in what's called,
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Now I didn't know what an embedded
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so I'm using all these big words like
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in the audience with Jesse
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But, but, but the church has put one of
our embeddable players on its website

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and so not only can you see, and this
lecture will probably be out next week

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or so, usually about 7 to 10 days.

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Uh, you can go back and look at all stuff.

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Also, um, um, um, Pastor Davis
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with us for the podcast.

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You can go back and look at his,
at his, uh, uh, his podcast.

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Pastor Dockery has done a podcast with us.

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You can go back and look at his podcast.

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Uh, Lorena has done one.

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website, www.

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thwwp.

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com and just click on it.

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Um, and you can put up on your, on
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But my point is, these, these
talks are available to you.

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Now sometimes I have people
coming up to me and said, Oh, Dr.

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Sarkozy, are you going to
do it again, or whatever?

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It's already online.

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It's already there.

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Uh, and the church provides it
directly, uh, directly for you.

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In conclusion, be the change
you want to see in the world.

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Pastor Rivas, could you close
us with a word of prayer?

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God,

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I want to for this day.

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You understand, oh God, that this day was
made for us, and not us with this day.

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Therefore, we take charge of God and we
bring it and give you, giving it to you

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as an offering so that you know, Lord
God, what to do and to give us the wisdom

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to be and to take of it the best it can
be for your honor and for your glory.

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I thank you for this opportunity
and for giving us that this

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privilege, Lord God, to have Dr.

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Choctaw.

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Uh, sharing with us, uh, his knowledge.

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Allow us to be, uh, resemblance
of all that teaching of

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our God to whatever we are.

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That just as the virus spreads
around, Lord, that our grace, our

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service can spread around too.

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For your honor for your glory
and to manifest the love

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that you have for humanity.

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We thank you again for all the
blessings and for your son Jesus.

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Amen and amen.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Dr.

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Chaptown.

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Great.

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Are there any questions?

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You have any questions?

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Okay.

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Thank you so

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much.

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Have a great day.

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Have a blessed day.

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All of you.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Great.

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Great.

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This was great information.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Amen Thank you for listening
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