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Speaker 1: Welcome to the 
Healthy, wealthy and Wise 
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podcast with Dr William T 
Choctaw, mdjd, where the doctor 
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helps you unlock your full 
potential by equipping you with 
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tools and knowledge in the areas
 of health, wealth and wisdom 
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anchored in his experience as a 
business executive, a physician 
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surveyor for the Joint 
Commission, a former mayor and 
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over 50 years of experience as a
 general surgeon. You've got 
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questions, he's got answers, so 
let's get started. Here's Dr 
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William T Choctaw, mdjd. 
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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Dr 
William T Choctaw and welcome to
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 our Healthy, wealthy and Wise 
podcast. This podcast is part of
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 our Leadership Masterclass 
series and we invite you to join
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 us on the journey today to 
learn some new and exciting 
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things about healthcare that you
 may not have experienced in the
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 past. Each month, we try to 
provide you, our listeners, with
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 mental, physical, spiritual 
strength by giving actionable 
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advice, tips, guidance and 
information to help you achieve 
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your own personal, professional 
and spiritual goals. We consider
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 the health of the mind, body 
and spirit paramount as a single
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 unit that can provide 
cumulative strength greater than
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 the individual parts to 
strengthen the whole person. So 
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join with us as we travel this 
journey today. Today, we're 
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going to talk about healthy 
eating that includes prebiotic 
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and probiotics the world of 
microorganisms. Let me repeat 
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that we're going to talk about 
healthy eating that includes 
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prebiotics and probiotics the 
world of microorganisms. So sit 
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back and go with us on this 
outstanding journey. As always, 
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we like to go over our beliefs 
and I believe that life is about
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 being of service to others. I 
believe knowledge is power. I 
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believe leaders can change the 
world. As always, we like to put
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 up an outline, and the purpose 
of the outline is to let you 
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know what we're going to talk 
about. But, more importantly, 
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the purpose of the outline is to
 let you know when we're just 
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about done. We're going to talk 
about microorganisms, and you 
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may be saying to yourself behind
 the world, does that involve 
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eating? Well, stay tuned and 
we'll go over that. We're going 
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to talk about good and bad 
microorganisms. We're going to 
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talk about microorganisms that 
live in the body. Yes, ladies 
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and gentlemen, there are 
bacteria and various types of 
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microorganisms that normally 
live within our bodies and we're
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 going to touch on that today. 
We're going to review prebiotic 
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and probiotics and talk about 
the specific benefits of each 
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and, as always, we always like 
to refer you to use your search 
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engine liberally, whichever 
system you have, and to review 
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and evaluate information, 
particularly from the Mayo 
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Clinic and other notable 
healthcare institutions, about 
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this important topic. This topic
, as always, as all of our 
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podcasts, are part of our 
masterclass series in medicine. 
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We believe that it's important 
that all of us have a certain 
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basic understanding of 
healthcare on multiple levels 
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and, again going back to our 
beliefs that knowledge is 
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powered, this will empower us, I
 believe, to have better 
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healthcare for ourselves and 
those around us. So go with me, 
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if you will, to the world of 
microorganisms. Microorganisms, 
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now, you may be saying well, 
what in the world is a 
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microorganism? Well, a 
microorganism is an organism 
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that can only be seen by the 
microscope. Let me say that 
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again A microorganism is an 
organism that can only be seen 
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by the microscope. Now you may 
be saying well, you know, I 
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don't ever remember hearing 
anything about this, and what in
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 the world are we talking about 
today? Well, I'm going to beg to
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 differ. I'm going to say go 
with me back to your high school
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, and I will bet you that 
somewhere in your high school 
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certainly in early college, but 
somewhere in your high school 
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you had a class called biology, 
Biology, the study of life. Bio 
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meaning life, ology mean the 
study of, and doing that biology
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 class, I'm going to suggest 
that somewhere in that room, 
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that was a microscope, a 
microscope, and it was that 
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microscope, a multiple 
microscopes like it, that you 
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use to begin to explore the 
world of microorganisms. Okay, 
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so just just think about that. 
These are organisms that are 
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with us daily, that we cannot 
see with the naked eye, that we 
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need a microscope to see them 
and, more importantly, the 
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organisms that I'm going to talk
 about are inside of us. It's 
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normal. Do not freak out, do not
 get scared, do not worry about 
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it. This is the way God intended
 it. Okay, so it's all good. 
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It's all good. So, as we said, 
organisms that cannot be seen by
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 the naked eye. There are 
different classes of 
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microorganisms and you've heard 
of these. Some are called 
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bacteria, which I'm sure you've 
heard of, fungii, a fungi, 
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protozoan, but you may not have 
heard of that's a single cell 
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organisms or virus. You've 
definitely heard about viruses. 
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Viruses, like bacteria and fungi
, are microorganisms. You can't 
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see a virus except through the 
microscope. Okay, so, of the 
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four or five different 
categories that we've mentioned,
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 we're going to concentrate 
today on the bacteria. We'll 
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only mention viruses and maybe 
some of the other microorganisms
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 as a contrast to bacteria. Okay
, so let's look at bacteria. 
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Well, what's interesting to know
 about bacteria? Is that back 
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normal bacteria, or I'm going to
 use the term good, bacteria 
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lives within us, lives within us
 and indeed bacteria, if you, 
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and there are billions of them 
that live within us, remember, 
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you can't see them, you need a 
microscope to see them, but 
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there are different parts of our
 bodies and I would argue, or 
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basically, most of the science 
shows that we're talking about 
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billions, with a beat of 
bacteria that live within our 
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body. Now, normally, whenever we
 hear bacteria, we think of 
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something bad, we think of 
something that we need to 
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destroy or kill or get rid of, 
and certainly much of that is 
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true. I'm going to talk about 
today, those bacteria that help 
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us, that help us. I believe the 
world and the human body is 
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extraordinarily complex, 
extraordinarily complex, and 
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part of that complexity is that 
the creator, god, in my opinion 
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put all of that together so that
 we all benefit, and I'm going 
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to talk about it from the human 
perspective and how these 
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billions of bacteria that are 
normally within our bodies help 
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us to function properly. 
Bacteria, obviously, are very, 
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very tiny that you can take 
100,000 of them and put them in 
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a period at the end of a 
sentence. Let me say that again 
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you can take 100,000 bacteria 
and fit them in a period at the 
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end of a sentence, and bacteria 
have been around for billions of
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 years billions of years. So 
this is part of the complicated 
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relationship, or the balanced 
relationship, if you will, the 
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world that we live in, that 
we're taking things from the 
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environment and we're giving 
things back to the environment. 
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But, as we will learn and I will
 use this word a lot balance is 
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what we want. Balance is what we
 want, and so one of the ways 
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and we'll talk about this a bit 
more also to think about 
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bacteria and their location is 
bacteria are very important, 
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among other things, in 
facilitating digestion, or the 
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gastrointestinal tract, or the 
stomach intestines tract. Or 
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when we eat something, let's say
 we eat an apple and we put it 
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in our mouth and we bite it, we 
chew it very, very fondly, we 
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swallow it. The apple then goes 
through our esophagus, which is 
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a tube that goes from our mouth 
to our stomach. The material 
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from the apple then goes into 
the stomach. It's mixed with 
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various types of enzymes to help
 to digest it, et cetera, et 
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cetera, et cetera. It then goes 
into the intestines, the small 
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intestines first the large 
intestines, until we ultimately 
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eliminated. But as it travels 
through that, I'm going to call 
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it the gastrointestinal tract, 
the stomach intestines tract it 
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interacts with millions of 
different types of bacteria, 
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normally, normally that reside 
in our intestinal tract, that 
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help to facilitate normal 
digestion. So bacteria can 
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either be good bacteria, that 
we're going to talk about mostly
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, or bad bacteria, that you're 
probably most familiar with, and
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 bad bacteria we hear about with
 illnesses, various types of 
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bacteria that cause illnesses or
 diseases or disabilities. 
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Example ear infection is usually
 caused by bacteria, most 
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commonly occurs in children. 
Pneumonia, which can occur in 
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anybody, which is bacteria in 
the lung that can create 
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information and multiple growth 
of other bacteria, bad bacteria 
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that make it difficult for us to
 breathe or without coughing, or
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 makes it difficult for us to 
exchange oxygen, which is the 
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main function of the lungs to 
allow us to carry on our normal,
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 regular body functioning. 
There's bacteria that can be a 
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part of food poisoning. If you 
eat certain bad types of food it
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 will spoil the types of food. 
That's usually because a certain
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 type of bacteria may have 
overgrown in that food and the 
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body does not like this 
particular type of bacteria and 
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that can cause things like 
crampy pain, diarrhea, et cetera
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, et cetera. So there's bad 
bacteria and there's good 
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bacteria. Now I would just 
momentarily contrast that with 
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viruses. They're bad viruses. 
Some of the bad viruses are 
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viruses that cause the common 
cold. Most of us have gotten 
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colds, usually once a year or so
. Those are rhino viruses. There
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 are certain viruses that can 
cause bad viruses, that can 
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cause influenza, the flu, and of
 course we know about the bad 
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viruses that can cause COVID. So
 my point is that viruses are a 
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type of microorganism, organisms
 that we cannot see, but they 
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are unique and different from 
bacteria, which are also 
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microorganisms that we cannot 
see. Okay, and I don't know. I 
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must admit I don't know of any 
good viruses, but they are good 
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bacteria. So let's get back to 
our topic good bacteria. Okay 
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Now, bacteria in general are 
various types and you can tell 
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the form of the bacteria or what
 it looks like. You have an idea
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 of what it looks like by the 
name. If you say streptococcus 
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pneumonia, that coccus means 
circle, so it's a strep type of 
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pneumonia that's circular in 
form, so that when you look at 
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it under the microscope you look
 for little circles to identify 
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that strep to coccus. If you 
look at salmonella typhi, which 
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is a type of bacteria that has a
 tail and that's a flagella we 
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call that, it's a rod, it's not 
a circle, it's a rod. If you 
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look at vibrio cholera, it has a
 little spiral tail associated 
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with it. So these are some of 
the things, ways that you can 
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identify the formation or the 
morphology, if you will, of 
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bacteria when you see them under
 the microscope. Remember, you 
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can't see bacteria with the 
naked eye, you can only see them
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 under the microscope and, trust
 me, most of you not all of you 
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did do this in school. I hope 
you have paying attention in 
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biology, where the instructor 
brought out the microscope and 
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you went by and you looked at 
different things under the 
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microscope. Other 
characteristics of bacteria 
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they're single cell. Now our 
bodies are made up of billions 
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of cells with a B billions of 
cells. The bacteria, or a 
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bacterium, is a single cell, 
just one again, which is why 
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it's so small, just why we can't
 see it with the naked eye. The 
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DNA is not compartmentalized in 
bacteria. That's sort of a 
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technical term. You don't have 
to worry about it, but it's just
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 another distinction. The DNA in
 bacteria are made up of one 
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single chromosome. We have a 
number of chromosomes in our 
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bodies, but that's different 
from a single cell bacteria. And
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 the other thing about the 
single cell bacteria is that it 
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reproduces asexually by what we 
call binary vision, so it does 
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not need a partner to reproduce,
 probably one of the reasons why
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 there's so many of them, one of
 the things to keep in mind. And
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 again, I'm going to go back and
 compare with the virus. Now, 
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both the microorganisms Bacteria
 can be killed with antibiotics.
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 Bacteria can be killed with 
antibiotics. You cannot kill 
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viruses with antibiotics. Okay, 
it's good to keep that in mind 
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and that's why you need vaccines
 to come in and help to prepare 
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the body's immune system to get 
rid of viruses. But bacteria, 
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you can kill them with 
antibiotics and that clearly in 
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the early stages of life, and 
mankind has helped to 
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revolutionize healthcare being 
able to kill the bad bacteria. 
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So we've talked about bad 
bacteria that can cause diseases
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 and illnesses, et cetera, et 
cetera. The majority and the 
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remainder of our discussion this
 morning is going to be about 
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the good bacteria, the pre and 
the probiotic bacteria. Okay, so
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 let's go to that. So again, 
bacteria normally live in our 
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bodies, normally live in our 
bodies, and a way to remember 
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that is that they are especially
 helpful in facilitating 
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digestion eating. Okay, now, 
back when you were in high 
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school, you had a little round 
dish called a Petra dish, and 
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you took a little something, a 
little wire, something, double 
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circle at the end, and you 
dipped it into a solution and 
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then you put some streaks on 
that Petra dish, you put a top 
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on that dish, you then put it in
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for overnight, and when you came
 back the next day, you saw that
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 you now had multiple streaks, a
 multiple little entities on 
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there initially, and what you 
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just did was that you grew 
bacteria in a Petra dish. You 
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then took another little wire 
like material. You took a piece 
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of that material, put it on a 
slide slide, put it under a 
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microscope and you looked at it 
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the bacteria that you've just 
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are present and you can 
reproduce them at will. So good 
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bacteria, good bacteria, divided
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probiotic bacteria and prebiotic
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complicated as it sounds. 
Alright. So the importance of 
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bacteria in general and we're 
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and the prebiotic, and we'll 
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bacteria can be used in nature 
this is also the body to get rid
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 of petroleum when there's a 
spill. Bacteria can also be used
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 in engineering various types of
 engineering to remove waste and
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 poisons from water. That help 
us. And obviously, bacteria can 
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be used in synthesizing drugs, 
and this is particularly where 
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various types of virus or 
vaccines may come in for viruses
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. So Two areas that good 
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about one, which is facilitating
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improving immunity, improving 
immunity. Immunity is the body's
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 ability to fight infection of 
various types, be it bacterial, 
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be it viral, be it protozoan, 
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one category of good bacteria is
 called probiotic 
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P-R-O-B-I-O-T-E-C probiotic. You
 can look that up again in your 
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search engine and research about
 what that's involved. But 
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that's a type of what we call 
good bacteria. These are living 
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microorganisms that can benefit 
the body, and so you may say 
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well, what are some sources of 
this good bacteria? How do I get
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 them? Well, you can get them in
 certain types of foods, believe
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 it or not, and you can also get
 them with supplements. I tend 
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to like the natural approach, 
and so I would recommend the 
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foods. Before you do supplements
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that you talk to your healthcare
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 physician, and make sure that 
the supplements don't interfere 
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with your other medication, if 
you're taking other medication, 
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or that they are the right ones 
for you. But certain types of 
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foods you are able to eat, and 
so the probiotics, one of the 
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parts of the good bacteria, are 
present in foods like yogurt. In
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 many of you eat yogurt, which 
is a good food to eat, and then 
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you can also eat the sauerkraut,
 which is another type of food 
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that you can find those 
probiotics in Other ways. That 
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probiotics help the body. In 
addition to digestion, as we 
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mentioned, is building up. They 
help the body to build up this 
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immune system so that it can 
fight other types of infections.
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 Now, other types of foods that 
these probiotic microorganisms 
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can be found normally, in 
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like kimchi, which is using 
different parts of Asia apple 
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vinegar, cider, pickles we're 
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miso, soup and so these are just
 some of the types of foods that
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 have that are rich in probiotic
 bacteria, that are normal, 
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healthy types of foods that we 
can eat that then help to build 
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up our probiotic material within
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another category of 
microorganisms in the body 
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called prebiotic. Prebiotic 
foods tend to be foods that are 
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typically high fiber and they 
also use as we eat to improve 
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our ability to build up our 
prebiotic microorganisms in the 
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body, and these foods have found
 our bananas, onions, oatmeal, 
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asparagus again, healthy types 
of foods that we can eat that 
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will help to build up our normal
, healthy bacteria that live 
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within our body that help to 
keep us even more healthy and 
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fight infections. So I know it's
 a little counterintuitive 
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because, again, usually when we 
hear bacteria, we think of bad 
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things or germs and things we 
want to get rid of, and yes, 
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they do exist. My point, very 
simple, is there is another side
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 of that and that other side is 
that there are bacteria that are
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 normally within our body that 
are beneficial to us and indeed,
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 using that word balance, we 
want a good balance between the 
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good bacteria, the 
pre-improbiotic bacteria, 
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microorganisms that live in our 
bodies and the bad bacteria that
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 we want to get rid of as much 
as possible. One of the things 
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to keep in mind because bacteria
 can be killed that very strong 
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antibiotics or some types of 
chemotherapy can destroy all 
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bacteria in the body, good or 
bad, and obviously that's 
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problematic because if you 
destroy all the good bacteria 
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now, you're putting that patient
 even more at risk, depending on
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 whatever his or her initial 
problem was. And so part of what
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 the position has to balance is 
what the status of the patient 
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is, do various tests to find out
 what's working, what's not 
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working, what areas are 
problematic, and balance the 
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risk-benefit ratio of 
antibiotics or any type of 
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treatment that might affect or 
upset the normal functioning of 
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the patient's body. But keep in 
mind that bacteria, again, they 
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are susceptible to antibiotics 
and probably some chemotherapy, 
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and so that can many times not 
be in the best interest of the 
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patient, and this is why I think
 it's so important to always 
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engage a healthcare professional
 when you're looking at 
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treatment and you're dealing 
with perceived illnesses. So if 
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we were to summarize then in 
terms of pre and probiotics by 
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themselves, probiotics are 
microorganisms, healthy bacteria
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 or bacteria that are within the
 body, that are good bacteria 
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and they promote healthy 
digestive activity. They can be 
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found in foods like yogurt, 
sauerkraut, kefir, pickles, 
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kimchi, tempeh and obviously in 
some supplements and again, I 
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caution against using the 
supplements, I'd recommend using
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 just regular foods. And then we
 have the other what I just 
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mentioned. With the probiotics, 
we also have the pre-biotics 
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that help to promote the growth 
of healthy bacteria within the 
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body, and they can be found in 
bananas, onions, artichokes, 
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garlic, oatmeal, honey and 
asparagus. So a lot of these 
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healthy foods that you know 
about, like bananas and yogurt 
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and other types of things, 
benefit us not only because 
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they're naturally healthy, but 
also because they help to 
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stimulate the good bacteria in 
the body and help to maintain 
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that good bacteria balance in 
the body that's necessary for us
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 to survive and to thrive. So a 
good way to look at it is pre 
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and probiotics. Again, the good 
bacteria in the body are 
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microscopic custodians of our 
body's healthy functions. The 
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pre and probiotics are 
microscopic custodians of our 
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body's healthy function. These 
are the good antibiotics that we
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 were born with or not born with
, but eventually develop over 
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time as part of a natural 
process of growth and 
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development, and they are a 
requirement to good health. And 
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again, a healthy body requires a
 good balance between the good 
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bacteria and bad bacteria, and 
obviously you want more good 
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bacteria than bad. So, in 
summary, microorganisms help us 
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stay healthy. Let me say that 
again. Some microorganisms help 
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us stay healthy and the category
 of these microorganisms are pre
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 and probiotic that's the term 
that's used to describe them. 
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Microorganisms are organisms 
that you cannot see with the 
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naked eye, you can only see them
 under microscope. But good 
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bacteria normally exist in the 
millions and billions in our 
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bodies. We have to do anything. 
They're just there and they help
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 to cause us to function 
normally. Challenges and 
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difficulties develop when we do 
things to our bodies that 
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disrupt that normal function and
 process and that's why it's 
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important that we be aware of 
that and we be aware of the 
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totality of what good health is.
 And again, remember that word 
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balance. And before we do 
anything very dramatic with our 
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bodies, always bring in a 
healthcare professional to 
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discuss that with them. And 
healthy eating with good food is
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 necessary for us to stay 
healthy. So as we end up, I like
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 to start, end up with my basic 
principles. The first basic 
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principle is that God is in 
charge. God is in charge of my 
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life and indeed I have been 
blessed my 75 years. Because of 
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that, I have no bad days. All my
 days are good days and great 
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days, because I figured out that
 whether my day was good or bad 
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it depended on what I decided, 
and so I decided I didn't want 
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any more bad days, and I share 
that with you because you can do
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 the same. Third principle is 
don't sweat the small stuff, and
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 most stuff is small. Most 
things that you think are a 
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problem usually are not a 
problem and so many times you 
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don't have to worry about them. 
Fourth principle is forgiveness 
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is therapy. When someone does 
something or a circumstance 
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occurs that you perceive as 
being negative, or someone does 
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something that you perceive as 
negative towards you, forgive 
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them. Forgive them, don't worry 
about who's right or wrong, 
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don't worry about the facts, 
just forgive them automatically,
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 and you would be amazed at how 
therapeutic that is for you 
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moving forward. And the fifth 
principle is that everything is 
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a relationship. Everything in 
life with you is a relationship,
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 and relationships are based on 
three things Mutual respect, 
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mutual trust and good 
communication. If you have those
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 three things, you have a very 
good relationship. If you do not
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 have those three things, you 
have work to do and finally be 
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the change you want to see in 
the world. Thank you, and have a
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