Empowering Youth: How Casey Learned Success from Langston Hughes

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Prof Podcsst Jesse: Coming up
on this episode of the healthy,

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wealthy, and wise podcast.

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If there was, if you had, um,
the ability to make the world a

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better place, what would you do?

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Welcome Welcome to the Healthy,
Wealthy and Wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD, where the doctor
helps you unlock your full potential

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by equipping you with the tools and
knowledge in the areas of health, wealth,

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and wisdom, anchored in his experience
as a business executive, a physician

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surveyor for the joint commission,
a former mayor, and over 50 years

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of experience as a general surgeon.

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You've got questions, he's got answers.

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So let's get started.

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Here's Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw.

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MDJD, you know, something?

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Um, I hear that Casey has
won an award here recently.

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Really?

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Didn't he?

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So, Casey, tell, tell me.

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, tell, tell me about your most
recent award that you won.

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Um, I won the Black
History Month Poem Award.

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Oh, tell me about that.

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I recited, I recited, um, the,
the creation by Links and Hughes.

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Yes.

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One of my favorites.

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Mm hmm And recently, um,
I won, I, um, I won it.

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I won a hundred dollars, but that
it's not, was it wasn't for the money.

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It was for me to grow individually.

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And, um, I really, I wanted
to do this poem thing because

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I knew that I could do it.

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I knew I would be able to do it.

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And.

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It was a long poem, and it was challenging
to learn the hand movements and the words,

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but I got it down quick, and I ended up
doing it twice, one for the 8 o'clock

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service, and one for the first time.

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Time that when I had one so okay.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask you did you find
it hard or easy to prepare for it?

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Did you get it all down pat?

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So it was hard to prepare for
because it was such a long poem it

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was three pages long and it was hard
to prepare for but I got down quick

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because I was, I was focused and I
made sure that I didn't play around.

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I pay attention to what my grandmother
was saying because sister Davis, my

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grandma, she was, she's talks kind
of slow, but she gets everybody

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understands what she's saying.

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She's explaining it.

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So I tried to do it like she would do it.

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And I learned from my mistakes.

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I learned from.

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All that I had, I learned like a lot about
how God created the world and how it was

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at first, it was an empty blank space.

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And now it would, it became,
he made everything happen.

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So I learned from the poem.

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And I also learned from my mistakes
that happened while I practiced my poem.

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So it was hard to, um, it was
hard to learn, but it was.

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It ended up being worth it in the end.

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How many days did you have to practice
to get that, get to that level?

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As soon as I heard about the poem
thing, I started looking for a poem.

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And after I found the
poem and I sent it to Ms.

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Cheryl Brown, I started
practicing ever since.

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And once it came to that
Saturday, I finally did it

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and I did well enough to win.

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How did you decide on Langston Hughes?

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I've read a lot of his work and I, I like
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what, what attracted you to his work?

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Langston Hughes is a famous poet.

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He's really, his work is loved everywhere.

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And I've had, I have a school
project and he is one of the

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famous Missourians of Missouri.

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So she was born in St.

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Louis, Missouri.

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And I thought, Langston Hughes would
be the perfect person to do a poem

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from because it was a poem that I could
relate to because I was created by God.

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My parents would create,
everybody was created by God.

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So I knew like it would be a
poem that I could relate to.

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It would be a poem that
I could learn from.

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It would be something that I'd
be perfect to do, especially

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since he's from Missouri.

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So Langston Hughes came to my mind as
soon as I started doing that project.

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I would encourage you to continue to
read Langston Hughes and other poets.

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Uh, poetry, one of the things I learned,
uh, is, is one of the most important ways

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of getting meaning that sort of helps
you, you know, when, when you're being

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challenged with things or maybe your
day is not as good as you want it to be.

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But it's always good to read a good
point and, and, or memorize it.

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Uh, you know, I even, um, um, have
memorized points over the years that

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I will say periodically when, when my
day is going one, one way or another.

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Um, I was there on at eight
o'clock service on Sunday morning.

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When you said your point,
I heard you see you.

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I did see you in the audience.

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Did you?

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And I, I am delighted, uh, being a
grandparent myself, I am delighted

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that you listened to your grandmother
and your grandfather, uh, we, we,

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we grandparents, uh, uh, love our
grandkids and so I'm, I'm, I'm

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happy that, that you did that also.

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Um, if you had to give advice to other 10
year olds, uh, about how to be successful

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in life, what advice would you give them?

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Um, never back down and to never
let anyone tell you, you can't do

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something because if you put your
mind to it, you can't do it, right?

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If you can think it, you can do it.

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You bet.

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I have a saying.

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Well, I said, no retreat, no
surrender, which is the same

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thing as saying never back down.

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And the reason is that.

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Whatever you want to do, there are
going to be challenges, you know,

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especially if it's something good.

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But if you never try, you will
never succeed with anything.

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And you will be surprised.

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A lot of times you think it's
going to be very difficult.

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You'll surprise yourself at how
well you can do it, how many

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times you will succeed with that.

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Um, what, what, what do you
want to be, uh, when you, well,

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let me back up, let me back up.

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What, what, what, um, um, um, major
do you want to take in college?

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So I want to become a marine biologist
because I wouldn't want to study sea life.

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Okay.

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And I'm already learning about
orcas and whales, sharks and stuff.

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And so I was.

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When I started, like, learning
about whales and all those animals

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from sea life, I, I realized
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biologist because I, I love animals.

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I have a dog at home and every
time I see an animal, I just,

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I, I light up, I love animals.

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I love sea animals too.

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I love fish.

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I love.

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Sharks, even though they're dangerous.

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I love orcas because their
pattern is just so beautiful.

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It's there in the doll.

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I know they're a member of the dolphin
family, but they're like, they're killer,

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they're sharks that people say they're
like killer sharks and stuff, but they

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they're a part of the dolphin family.

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So I love dolphins, killer
orcas, whales, sharks.

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I love.

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A lot of animals.

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Did you hear about the
whale that was beached?

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I think it was in Malibu
about a week or so ago.

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You heard about that?

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Yeah.

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What did you think about that?

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I was, I was very sad because
I knew that that whale, they

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could try all they wanted, but
It couldn't, he's resuscitated.

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So I was sad about, I was sad when I
heard about it because I love whales.

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I, there's, I love whales.

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I love all types of them.

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I love beluga whales.

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I love big, big whales.

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I love small whales.

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I love them all.

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When I heard about that, I
just, I was very, very sad.

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Understood.

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When you, when you are
baptized next month.

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How will you use that
experience to help others?

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After I get baptized, I already talk about
Jesus at school and public and stuff.

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So once I get baptized, I'm
going to start talking about

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him even more than I already do.

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I'm going to spread the word.

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I'm going to basically live how
Jesus would want me to live.

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So that's my plan.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Very good.

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Um, in terms of, um, other students
who are your age, uh, have you

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learned anything from them that
have, that's, that's helped you,

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uh, just, just, just from your
friends and your colleagues, Proacon?

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I have learned things from my peers.

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I've learned about, I've learned
things from their culture as well.

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Like, some kids come from a
Spanish background, and so

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I've learned things from them.

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I've learned about, like, I've learned
about some of my friends personalities,

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I've learned about some of my peers
personalities, I've learned about

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different languages, and I'm even
learning Spanish so that I can communicate

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with the kids here at my school.

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So, because there are kids
at my school who Don't speak

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English and they speak Spanish.

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Mm-Hmm.

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. So I've been learning Spanish to
communicate with them and so, okay.

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Um, I've been learning from that.

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I would rather been
picking up Spanish, so.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Excellent.

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Excellent.

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If there was, if you had, um, the ability,
uh, to make the world a better place.

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First, I would demolish racism because
that's a terrible thing and it's,

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it's really bad because people who,
um, who, um, discriminate people off

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of their race, it's, it's sad to hear
all the stories of that happening.

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Yeah.

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Like.

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Brianna Taylor and
George Floyd and things.

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So it's sad to hear about those
people dying and because of cops,

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sometimes of their own race,
killing people who are innocent and

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who haven't done anything wrong.

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And sometimes, um, I've heard things
where, um, colored prisoners, they end

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up being hurt or killed because, um,
somebody accused them of doing something.

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Right.

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But they end up, they end up turning
up innocent and they're already gone.

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And that's because of the
ignorance of some people.

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So.

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Well, I certainly agree.

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Banishing racism is ideal.

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In addition to banishing racism,
what else would you do to

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make the world a better place?

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Um, I would.

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Definitely.

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Um, I talk about, um,
I, I spread the word.

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I encourage other people to spread
the word as well because I know

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there are different religions like
Judaism and Buddhism and stuff.

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So I know there are other religions.

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But in the end, we might as
well all come together okay.

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And celebrate all of our differences
and religions and stuff because

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it's better to celebrate and build
each other up than take each other

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down and and criticize each other.

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So I feel that that would be one
of the things I would do as well.

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Okay.

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Um, and I'm going to let you go.

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I just want to ask like
one other question.

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Let's say you got a phone
call from Washington, D.

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C.

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And when you, when you picked up
the phone, picked up your phone,

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um, uh, they, you said, hello.

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And they said, hello.

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And they said, is this, is
this Casey, blah, blah, blah.

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And you say, yes.

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And they said, hold, please.

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The president wants to talk to you.

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So the president of the United States
gets on the phone and he says, you

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know, I, I just been having a tough day.

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Matter of fact, I've, I've
had, I've had a tough week.

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Uh, he asked you for advice about what
he could do to make, uh, the United

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States of America, uh, a better country.

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What would you tell him?

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Classes in session.

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Hey there, podcast professor here,
encouraging you to let your voice

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and your thoughts be heard because
you matter in what you say matters.

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Now you might be thinking professor.

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Now that all sounds good,
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Well, I can help you with that.

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Just go to th wwp.

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information, then that's it.

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Class dismissed.

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Now back to the episode in progress.

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Going back to that racism thing, I would
tell him, um, maybe make racism Like, not

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as legal as it is, and make, um, Weapons
like not as easy to find as they are.

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So I would say, um, maybe get rid
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a person of color or without and
I would, um, tell him to, um, Talk

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to people about race, um, racial
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same thing as being racist and it's bad.

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So, um, that would be the advice.

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Just, um, make some things
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Okay.

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That makes sense.

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So, uh, before I let you in, any
questions you want to ask me or Brother

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Hammonds before we, before we end?

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Um,

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um, This is just the interview
for the podcast, right?

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That's correct.

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So when's the actual podcast?

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Well, this, this is the actual podcast,
um, when, when we finish, um, brother

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Hammonds is gonna work his magic.

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Um, and then, uh, probably in, in a
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on, in cyberspace and We'll, we'll
let you and your mom and dad know,

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and you can just tune in and, and,
and listen, uh, to the whole podcast.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, other than that, I
have no other questions.

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Uh, Jessa, do you have
any questions for Casey?

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Well, yeah, on that last point there that
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the advice you were giving the president
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age or in your age group feel the same
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I know most kids probably, um, It kind
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they don't really get like government
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the kids who do we talk about it sometimes
and we all know it's like not good to

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discriminate someone off their race.

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So when we do talk about it, um,
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we should abolish, get rid of for
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really crazy thing that people do.

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So I think some people do and some
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what their parents think their family
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They might, they most
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And the kids pretty much get along,
there's no issues like that with them?

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There's never, I've never heard of
any racial, um, things happening.

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There's none being said to me, there's
none being, I've never heard of any

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being said to any other students,
so that's just out of the picture,

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I guess, yeah, you would say.

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Well, Casey, I want to thank you for
being so gracious with your time.

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Um, it is extraordinarily, uh,
encouraging and inspiring to

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listen to a, 10-year-old leader

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Uh, uh, and I, I have said many times
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racism and whatever, whatever, that I'm,
I'm not really worried, um, about the

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future because I have grandchildren.

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And my point is that my
grandchildren, some of them are

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your age and you give me hope.

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Well, the future because your
generation is far advanced than my

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generation was when I was 10 years
of age, um, and it is an honor and a

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privilege, uh, to be able to hear your
thoughts and your words of wisdom.

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And at any time.

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You want to sit down and share, um, um,
some words that you just want people to

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hear, uh, you just let Brother Hammonds
and I know, and we will, we will give you

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whatever platform you need to do that.

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I would encourage you to continue to
run for office, student council, and

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or other offices, because I think
that allows you to do multiple things

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at the same time that you can do a,
you can be a marine biologist and.

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The president of X, Y, Z student council
or, uh, mayor of your city or whatever.

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Um, but, but thank you so much.

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Uh, thank you for having me.

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Oh, it was a trust me.

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It was, it was our pleasure.

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And so, uh, uh, with, with, uh,
with God's grace, we, we wish

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you a great, a blessed day.

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You as well.

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Okay.

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Take care guys.

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Bye.

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You too.

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Bye bye.

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