Empowering Youth Through Education and Leadership with Keith Hanson

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,740 Dr. William T Choctaw: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very, very 2 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,039 special guest brother Keith Hanson. 3 00:00:04,384 --> 00:00:07,794 Who we've known for a number of years, but who's been involved with some very 4 00:00:07,794 --> 00:00:14,204 unique activities, specifically involving education and involving our youth. 5 00:00:14,904 --> 00:00:18,834 And because we were so impressed with the work that he has done. 6 00:00:19,254 --> 00:00:23,314 We invited him to join us on Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 7 00:00:23,354 --> 00:00:27,884 podcast, and he graciously agreed for him to share some of that. 8 00:00:27,924 --> 00:00:31,264 This is about leadership, and this is, this podcast is part 9 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:32,934 of our Leadership Masterclass. 10 00:00:33,394 --> 00:00:39,144 And so our hope is that as you listen, to the work of Brother Hanson and other 11 00:00:39,144 --> 00:00:43,644 leaders that you too will be inspired to do something like what he's doing 12 00:00:44,004 --> 00:00:48,774 or just certainly assist him or help him in doing what he has been doing. 13 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:51,224 So, welcome again, Brother Hanson. 14 00:00:51,704 --> 00:00:52,024 Thank you. 15 00:00:52,024 --> 00:00:52,824 It's good to be here. 16 00:00:53,384 --> 00:00:54,064 Thank you. 17 00:00:54,534 --> 00:00:58,734 So, why don't we start off with just real basic stuff like, 18 00:00:58,984 --> 00:01:00,465 so tell us about yourself. 19 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:02,980 Keith Hansen: Well, 20 00:01:06,050 --> 00:01:08,170 I've been involved with the youth. 21 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:11,160 One of the things we were speaking about was youth and education. 22 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:16,100 And I've been at the church there for over 32 years. 23 00:01:16,539 --> 00:01:21,329 And the last probably 1215 years of that I've worked with our youth and that's 24 00:01:21,339 --> 00:01:26,539 1 of my passions to help our youth and try to educate them, prepare them for 25 00:01:26,539 --> 00:01:29,249 education, prepare them for their future. 26 00:01:29,679 --> 00:01:33,729 And so that's how I got involved in my three kids. 27 00:01:33,729 --> 00:01:37,699 I've, the things I try to help and share with the people are the things 28 00:01:37,699 --> 00:01:39,129 that I've done with my three kids. 29 00:01:39,129 --> 00:01:44,719 So it's something that I've learned through OJT, I guess you 30 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:49,844 could say, and like to share it to try to help others What is OJT? 31 00:01:50,374 --> 00:01:51,224 On The Job Training. 32 00:01:51,594 --> 00:01:51,824 Oh! 33 00:01:53,164 --> 00:01:55,564 Where you do it while, you learn while you're doing it. 34 00:01:55,934 --> 00:01:57,594 Oh, okay, got it, got it. 35 00:01:57,814 --> 00:02:00,584 Starting off with my son first, and our daughter Jasmine, 36 00:02:00,584 --> 00:02:02,134 and our last daughter Jada. 37 00:02:02,714 --> 00:02:02,934 Okay. 38 00:02:02,934 --> 00:02:06,334 Who's getting ready to graduate soon here with a degree in 39 00:02:06,424 --> 00:02:07,754 Neuroscience, as a matter of fact. 40 00:02:07,764 --> 00:02:08,184 Really? 41 00:02:08,304 --> 00:02:09,654 Oh, congratulations. 42 00:02:09,654 --> 00:02:10,834 Congratulations. 43 00:02:12,094 --> 00:02:15,254 Dr. William T Choctaw: So, how did you get started with this interest? 44 00:02:15,434 --> 00:02:16,294 Was it just a coincidence? 45 00:02:18,684 --> 00:02:24,494 Keith Hansen: Well, the interest came about by need some of the things, 46 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:29,254 as you know, a lot of things that are made available or that happen 47 00:02:29,264 --> 00:02:32,924 or due to a need that is there and people try to fill the need. 48 00:02:33,274 --> 00:02:33,504 Right. 49 00:02:33,564 --> 00:02:40,004 And one of the things that is a passion and it started with my son was. 50 00:02:40,514 --> 00:02:47,774 Addressing the issue of the lack of males on college campuses, a lot of 51 00:02:47,944 --> 00:02:53,244 times you go to the college campuses and the ratio of women to men is just 52 00:02:53,514 --> 00:03:01,644 overwhelming and we went to different campuses as he was trying to start school. 53 00:03:01,654 --> 00:03:04,544 So we had to go for different testing and all the time. 54 00:03:04,994 --> 00:03:07,924 It was every 10, 12 women. 55 00:03:07,934 --> 00:03:09,814 You'd see one guy, one guy. 56 00:03:10,414 --> 00:03:15,654 And so there was a lot, it's a lot of young and especially African 57 00:03:15,654 --> 00:03:21,264 American males that are wise enough to attend college, but don't for many 58 00:03:21,264 --> 00:03:25,054 reasons that they didn't know what to do, how to get there, they didn't 59 00:03:25,064 --> 00:03:26,914 have the resources on and on and on. 60 00:03:27,264 --> 00:03:29,084 So myself and some others. 61 00:03:30,119 --> 00:03:34,099 Started looking at that and then trying to meet the need and help with 62 00:03:34,099 --> 00:03:36,109 that through other organizations. 63 00:03:36,469 --> 00:03:39,349 Some that we got involved with 1, the council on African American 64 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:40,759 parenting, which is phenomenal. 65 00:03:41,059 --> 00:03:44,859 There used to be 1 called college bound and yes, I've heard of that. 66 00:03:45,419 --> 00:03:48,819 That was 1 that we did originally and then there was some. 67 00:03:49,504 --> 00:03:52,294 Issues there and it went away and it had been there for years. 68 00:03:52,294 --> 00:03:57,834 And then through that, through the things that I learned, try to share 69 00:03:57,834 --> 00:04:01,694 with other parents, families to help them along in their journey. 70 00:04:01,694 --> 00:04:04,484 And, you know, stuff like that. 71 00:04:04,484 --> 00:04:08,384 So it became a passion and then through our church, trying to 72 00:04:08,384 --> 00:04:09,824 help our kids there at church. 73 00:04:09,924 --> 00:04:15,684 You know, again, like I said, the, the male representation of African 74 00:04:15,684 --> 00:04:18,604 American males, Latino males is. 75 00:04:20,419 --> 00:04:21,649 Low, very low. 76 00:04:21,729 --> 00:04:25,509 And yeah, so that was one of the things we tried to address. 77 00:04:25,509 --> 00:04:30,999 And then it just became a thing that I've grown to love and do. 78 00:04:30,999 --> 00:04:35,699 And then there was a need at church there to help with the Sunday school first with 79 00:04:35,699 --> 00:04:37,609 the boys, then they merged them together. 80 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:39,049 So we started doing that. 81 00:04:39,059 --> 00:04:42,189 And then with the high school classes, and I thought that's the most perfect 82 00:04:42,189 --> 00:04:45,909 time to try to help address these kids with their educational needs, the 83 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:48,599 boys and girls as they are freshmen. 84 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:52,864 As you know, the scripture tells us without a vision, the people perish. 85 00:04:52,864 --> 00:04:55,984 And yes, a lot of kids had no vision. 86 00:04:56,294 --> 00:05:00,004 So therefore, you know what happened after that they would become seniors 87 00:05:00,004 --> 00:05:03,504 and they had no idea what to do, where to go and how to get there. 88 00:05:04,054 --> 00:05:08,714 So I would try to catch them at an early age, provide different vehicles. 89 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:13,319 to help them achieve their educational needs and stuff like that. 90 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:14,119 And you know, 91 00:05:14,129 --> 00:05:16,959 Dr. William T Choctaw: I think the work you do is extraordinary, and I 92 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:19,059 agree with you a thousand percent. 93 00:05:19,899 --> 00:05:24,649 It has been one of my passions, specifically the issue of men 94 00:05:24,699 --> 00:05:29,519 specifically, and boys, and specifically men and boys of color. 95 00:05:29,809 --> 00:05:31,989 Because then it becomes a big conundrum. 96 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:34,099 You're expected to lead a family. 97 00:05:34,429 --> 00:05:39,599 Provide for your family, do all these things, but yet the source or the 98 00:05:39,599 --> 00:05:41,679 opportunities are limited for you. 99 00:05:42,659 --> 00:05:47,339 One of my passions, and, and you'll, as you listen to other podcasts, Rudy 100 00:05:47,349 --> 00:05:50,329 Chavarria is, is a college mentor. 101 00:05:50,649 --> 00:05:50,789 Huh. 102 00:05:50,990 --> 00:05:55,010 Who I met recently last month and who's also going to talk 103 00:05:55,010 --> 00:05:58,630 this month about college and recruiting students for college. 104 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:04,670 And we were sharing the same system the same opinions about it's, it's the men 105 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:07,440 or the boys that many times are, are. 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:14,000 are not advancing as much as they should and, and, and, and at the same time have 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,130 double, triple expectations on them. 108 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:20,890 And a lot of times it's what you think, whatever you think is what you can do. 109 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:23,950 If you don't think you can do something, then you won't be able to do it. 110 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:26,860 I've actually many times, and I'll stop with this. 111 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:34,705 17 year old girl, Who got pregnant in high school and had to drop out told 112 00:06:34,705 --> 00:06:39,345 me I would be a doctor when I was five, which that's the earliest I remember it. 113 00:06:39,345 --> 00:06:43,395 She and, you know, back then, if you were a girl and you got pregnant, 114 00:06:43,585 --> 00:06:44,925 you couldn't go back to school. 115 00:06:44,945 --> 00:06:49,325 Her education was over, but she decided that she would put that 116 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:51,555 into her first born and she did. 117 00:06:51,995 --> 00:06:52,505 She did. 118 00:06:52,805 --> 00:06:53,735 And here I am. 119 00:06:54,005 --> 00:06:56,255 So I'm, I'm a strong believer in that. 120 00:06:56,285 --> 00:07:00,365 And I do believe that it's, it's different with men and boys, you 121 00:07:00,365 --> 00:07:04,185 know you know, girls tend to be particularly as teenagers, they, 122 00:07:04,205 --> 00:07:08,565 they tend to be very verbal write very well, speak very well boys. 123 00:07:08,865 --> 00:07:11,265 Tend to get that, but they get it later. 124 00:07:11,575 --> 00:07:15,815 Boys, a lot of times in high school or junior high school are considered to be 125 00:07:16,135 --> 00:07:18,295 problems because they're hyperactive. 126 00:07:18,785 --> 00:07:21,505 And I, I gave another podcast on this. 127 00:07:21,505 --> 00:07:23,235 I think we use far too much. 128 00:07:23,505 --> 00:07:27,785 medication and have been prescribed but ADHD. 129 00:07:28,125 --> 00:07:29,855 This is not hyperactive. 130 00:07:29,995 --> 00:07:33,255 You as a teacher must find out how best to teach them. 131 00:07:33,255 --> 00:07:34,365 That's what good 132 00:07:34,365 --> 00:07:35,105 teachers do. 133 00:07:35,105 --> 00:07:37,145 Instead of drugging 134 00:07:37,145 --> 00:07:37,805 them and blaming 135 00:07:37,805 --> 00:07:38,135 Keith Hansen: them. 136 00:07:38,855 --> 00:07:39,905 That's exactly true. 137 00:07:40,035 --> 00:07:43,725 One of the key things, well, one of the things is, is like you 138 00:07:43,735 --> 00:07:48,035 said, some kids get diagnosed as ADHD, this, that, and the other. 139 00:07:49,055 --> 00:07:54,545 I, one of the things I try to tell our Children first and foremost, that they 140 00:07:54,545 --> 00:07:58,275 have to take ownership of their education and they have to be the driving force. 141 00:07:58,275 --> 00:08:01,815 They have to be their own advocate for it when they go to school. 142 00:08:02,355 --> 00:08:05,235 It's that teacher's job, as you said, to quote unquote teach. 143 00:08:05,425 --> 00:08:11,095 But many times some will have instructors and not teachers and you need to When 144 00:08:11,095 --> 00:08:14,725 you roll in there first, you need to do an assessment to find out, do I 145 00:08:14,725 --> 00:08:18,245 have a, an instructor or a teacher that's really willing to work with me, 146 00:08:18,245 --> 00:08:19,775 help me and get me where I need to go. 147 00:08:20,205 --> 00:08:23,975 And then depending on the subject and the skill of that individual, 148 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:28,535 they can make it entertaining and exciting to where you won't have 149 00:08:28,535 --> 00:08:32,405 these kids that are hyperactive, quote unquote, disruptions in the class. 150 00:08:32,925 --> 00:08:35,815 I can think of when I was in high school, what to send him as high school. 151 00:08:35,835 --> 00:08:38,715 And there was a history teacher of all things. 152 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:43,740 that she had a wide range of kids that nobody else would deal with in 153 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:47,220 that class, but they came in there, they performed and they did what she 154 00:08:47,220 --> 00:08:48,990 did because she made it interesting. 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,550 And she taught, she taught us a lot of world history stuff. 156 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:55,940 She taught us about you know, different maps and countries. 157 00:08:55,940 --> 00:08:59,210 And a lot, she was before she became a teacher, a lot of the 158 00:08:59,210 --> 00:09:02,320 places she went, she was a nun and traveled there doing mission work. 159 00:09:02,740 --> 00:09:04,840 So she had first person knowledge. 160 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:07,040 And she captivated the audience. 161 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,740 She had expectations for you when you came in there, she set goals 162 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:14,800 for you to learn and for you to do. 163 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,630 And people rose to the occasion. 164 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,130 And it, it, I saw it then as a kid. 165 00:09:19,130 --> 00:09:23,010 And then 1984, when I was in West Germany, except that the Lord became a Christian, 166 00:09:23,010 --> 00:09:27,200 the church I went to the same thing, that pastor had expectations for us to 167 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,110 learn and what he expected us to do. 168 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:30,180 And he taught as though. 169 00:09:30,465 --> 00:09:32,425 We were in a college. 170 00:09:32,495 --> 00:09:37,835 So you rose to that occasion and you became what they wanted you to do. 171 00:09:37,845 --> 00:09:43,275 So again, what you said, many of our kids they're not problems. 172 00:09:43,275 --> 00:09:46,615 They just have to, like you said, people have to take an interest whether through 173 00:09:46,615 --> 00:09:48,489 the parents or the teachers and find out. 174 00:09:48,860 --> 00:09:52,390 what they're interested in, meet that need and they will soar. 175 00:09:52,770 --> 00:09:57,250 I think of two girls at our church there they were doing poorly in school. 176 00:09:57,250 --> 00:10:00,560 They didn't like going to school and I asked them, so Sunday school 177 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:02,650 teacher, what is the reason with it? 178 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:03,920 They said that they were bored. 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,380 They didn't like What was being taught the curriculum, this, that, and the other. 180 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:08,550 And I said, what interests you? 181 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:11,230 And both of them, one was saying theater. 182 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:14,060 The other said music and theater or this, that, and the other. 183 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,940 So I talked to their parents and had them go to the performing 184 00:10:16,940 --> 00:10:18,590 arts high school at Cal state LA. 185 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:20,110 And they. 186 00:10:20,465 --> 00:10:23,605 I would see them because I ride the train in the morning into Union Station. 187 00:10:23,925 --> 00:10:26,495 I would see them on the train, excited about going to school. 188 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:27,165 They would go there. 189 00:10:27,165 --> 00:10:27,915 They thrive. 190 00:10:27,925 --> 00:10:28,635 They soared. 191 00:10:29,085 --> 00:10:30,205 They went on to college. 192 00:10:30,205 --> 00:10:32,595 They both, I believe, went to the new school in New York for 193 00:10:32,595 --> 00:10:36,585 performing arts and things like this, but just that switch changed. 194 00:10:36,985 --> 00:10:41,225 Their love for education and their excitement about going to school, you 195 00:10:41,225 --> 00:10:45,855 know, so a lot of times people have to put in the work again, whether the parents, 196 00:10:45,855 --> 00:10:50,385 the teachers to try to meet the needs of those kids and keep them stimulated 197 00:10:50,385 --> 00:10:53,065 and keep them, you know, learning. 198 00:10:53,335 --> 00:10:57,565 Otherwise, you know, they're gonna they're not going to do well. 199 00:10:58,185 --> 00:10:58,595 Well, you know, 200 00:10:58,595 --> 00:11:01,115 Dr. William T Choctaw: the professions that I admire the most 201 00:11:01,175 --> 00:11:03,175 are teachers and social workers. 202 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,460 Keith Hansen: Oh, yes, 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,370 Dr. William T Choctaw: and because in my life as a foster kid and coming 204 00:11:07,370 --> 00:11:09,630 up to the numerous foster homes, that 205 00:11:09,630 --> 00:11:11,230 Keith Hansen: was a foster kid. 206 00:11:11,450 --> 00:11:12,280 Yeah, I was a foster kid. 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,750 I just found that out the other day and I was amazed. 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,140 I was 209 00:11:15,870 --> 00:11:20,300 Dr. William T Choctaw: right, but you know, I tell the story for the reason 210 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:22,090 that you were just talking about that. 211 00:11:22,335 --> 00:11:27,645 It is possible with with with good supervision and advice and people 212 00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:32,865 willing to help like you and others that you can take a kid like me or with my 213 00:11:32,885 --> 00:11:35,535 background and get us to that other level. 214 00:11:35,595 --> 00:11:40,640 And that is the essence of Of what we're trying to do, even with these podcasts, 215 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,510 I can tell you that had it not been for some of those good teachers in high 216 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:50,000 school, junior high school specifically, that's where I was a problem kid I 217 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,710 would not have made it, I would have been off doing something crazy because 218 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:57,240 at that point, again, I was separated from my mother, and so I was sort of, 219 00:11:57,575 --> 00:11:59,695 Lost, if you will, you know, right. 220 00:12:00,455 --> 00:12:02,525 But but I call them angels. 221 00:12:02,535 --> 00:12:07,465 These good teachers and counselors and and I have always felt and this has 222 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:13,295 been my experience that a lot of times the counselors presently do not give 223 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:17,670 Minority kids, the benefit of the doubt, the minority kids, you're preaching 224 00:12:17,675 --> 00:12:20,040 come and say, I, I wanna go to UCLA. 225 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,140 And they said, well you know what, most of our kids go to junior colleges, you know, 226 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:29,430 and they divert them to a junior college, which sometimes junior colleges are 227 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:31,620 great, but sometimes they can be a trap. 228 00:12:32,130 --> 00:12:32,520 Yes. 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,055 Two reasons. 230 00:12:33,730 --> 00:12:37,000 Kid goes to the junior college because they figure it's easier than going to 231 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,870 UCLA or USC for the first two years. 232 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:40,860 It's not easier. 233 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:42,650 Many times it's probably more difficult. 234 00:12:43,070 --> 00:12:46,160 The second thing, they go to the junior college, but they 235 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,810 don't take a full course. 236 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,640 They take one or two classes that they can take for five and 10 years. 237 00:12:52,950 --> 00:12:54,530 And so they never graduate. 238 00:12:54,530 --> 00:12:57,640 So it's like a loop that they, they, they get stuck into. 239 00:12:58,070 --> 00:13:00,860 And so, you know, I, my approach has been. 240 00:13:01,085 --> 00:13:06,165 to say, you know, think, think bigger, think big, I believe, think four 241 00:13:06,165 --> 00:13:08,165 year, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 242 00:13:08,525 --> 00:13:11,535 Because that, that's where we need our best and our brightest. 243 00:13:11,975 --> 00:13:15,175 Keith Hansen: Do you, do you ever realize, and I realized it, especially 244 00:13:15,175 --> 00:13:18,625 when I was in the military that, and then I started putting my mind 245 00:13:18,625 --> 00:13:23,245 on rewind, thinking about most of the people I know from the Midwest. 246 00:13:23,585 --> 00:13:27,205 And especially down the south, going to the east coast, their kids don't go 247 00:13:27,205 --> 00:13:29,565 to junior college, they expect them. 248 00:13:29,575 --> 00:13:33,345 It is an expected thing that once you graduate high school, you are going to 249 00:13:33,345 --> 00:13:35,485 a university and that's the way it is. 250 00:13:35,525 --> 00:13:36,715 And that's just the way they roll. 251 00:13:36,715 --> 00:13:38,875 And that's just how they do out here. 252 00:13:38,915 --> 00:13:40,865 It is a big thing to go to junior college. 253 00:13:40,865 --> 00:13:45,235 But what I tell students now, what I tell our youth, if they 254 00:13:45,235 --> 00:13:46,455 have the academic academic. 255 00:13:47,095 --> 00:13:51,985 Wherewithal and if they are at the, at grade levels and things that 256 00:13:51,985 --> 00:13:54,855 they are acceptable or accepted. 257 00:13:55,555 --> 00:13:56,125 How can I say it? 258 00:13:56,135 --> 00:13:59,235 If they have their A through G requirements and things tied in, right. 259 00:13:59,235 --> 00:14:02,515 The three point average up to where they're able to be accepted to a four 260 00:14:02,515 --> 00:14:06,275 year college, then that's what they need to do by any means necessary. 261 00:14:07,435 --> 00:14:08,965 Tell them about that. 262 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:13,260 There are so many ways for you to get there and pay for your school. 263 00:14:13,530 --> 00:14:16,770 A lot of kids, I tell them, you know, some say their parents make too much 264 00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:20,290 money and I tell them that there's a difference between need based 265 00:14:20,290 --> 00:14:22,270 scholarships and merit based scholarships. 266 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:26,910 My daughters and even my son but the daughters especially were on fire with it. 267 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:29,230 Whenever they found out about a scholarship that was 268 00:14:29,230 --> 00:14:30,630 available, they were on it. 269 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:31,330 They were on it. 270 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,280 And. 271 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,565 They had money flowing. 272 00:14:34,845 --> 00:14:38,635 My youngest daughter even did it the best before she was a freshman. 273 00:14:38,935 --> 00:14:42,705 She had over like 6, 500 in scholarship money. 274 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:46,335 And then she was in our Inland Valley newspaper this year in December. 275 00:14:46,555 --> 00:14:49,185 She was one of the first recipients of one of the scholarships 276 00:14:49,185 --> 00:14:50,295 she got that was renewable. 277 00:14:50,565 --> 00:14:53,925 Every year that you're in college, you show them your, your Classes 278 00:14:53,925 --> 00:14:57,275 and they give you another stipend of money for every year you're there. 279 00:14:57,565 --> 00:15:02,245 So there's, I tell them, don't let money be a restriction from getting educated. 280 00:15:02,605 --> 00:15:06,875 And I think it's very important if they're able to go to a four year 281 00:15:06,875 --> 00:15:08,195 college or go to college at all. 282 00:15:08,405 --> 00:15:12,075 The first year that they're able to go, I think it is imperative that they be 283 00:15:12,075 --> 00:15:15,755 on the college campus so that they're able to learn how to matriculate through 284 00:15:15,815 --> 00:15:17,505 all the different things that are there. 285 00:15:17,765 --> 00:15:20,155 Learn to utilize all the resources that are there. 286 00:15:20,415 --> 00:15:22,415 Learn to you know, to. 287 00:15:22,855 --> 00:15:25,655 Take care of business all the way around, you know? 288 00:15:25,755 --> 00:15:26,435 So. 289 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:31,190 It's, it's I tell them first and foremost, and this is why I think reach back at a, 290 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:36,190 at a freshman age and try to put in their mind that you need to do these things. 291 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,430 I'll tell you this real quick. 292 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,850 And this is something that I learned years back and I was staggered. 293 00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:43,960 One of the ladies I work with her daughter. 294 00:15:45,515 --> 00:15:49,125 We were working a Saturday and she was our chief information officer and she 295 00:15:49,125 --> 00:15:52,465 bought the daughter with her and she was going to her office and the daughter 296 00:15:52,465 --> 00:15:55,785 wanted to stay there where we were loading software on computers and stuff like this. 297 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:59,765 And so the little girl sat there and she says she started talking with 298 00:15:59,765 --> 00:16:02,455 us and somebody asked her, what do you want to be when you grow up? 299 00:16:03,025 --> 00:16:06,425 And she said this, this little girl was eight years old and. 300 00:16:07,665 --> 00:16:12,785 She said, after I finished college, I want, and I didn't hear anything. 301 00:16:12,785 --> 00:16:18,935 She said, I was like at eight years old, there was no question of if I go, I 302 00:16:18,935 --> 00:16:21,085 hope to get in, I'm going to try to go. 303 00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:22,855 I'd like to, it's a thought. 304 00:16:23,045 --> 00:16:23,995 I don't know what to do. 305 00:16:24,345 --> 00:16:26,745 And the CIO was a good friend of mine. 306 00:16:26,745 --> 00:16:28,345 She passed, but she's Asian. 307 00:16:28,345 --> 00:16:29,185 And she said. 308 00:16:29,610 --> 00:16:34,280 At my house, the way we do college is an extension of high school. 309 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,640 Just like kindergarten, you go to first grade and from junior 310 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,800 high, you go to high school. 311 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,670 And after high school, you go to college. 312 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:42,160 That's part of the progression. 313 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,640 It's not a option. 314 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,160 It is the way that it is. 315 00:16:45,455 --> 00:16:45,775 Absolutely. 316 00:16:45,775 --> 00:16:49,625 So I had put that in her mind, and that's the way she thinks. 317 00:16:49,965 --> 00:16:52,755 And I was like, the power of that was phenomenal. 318 00:16:52,975 --> 00:16:56,705 Well, I was blessed to see this young girl graduate high school. 319 00:16:56,705 --> 00:16:58,005 She went on to Harvey Mudd. 320 00:16:58,005 --> 00:17:01,655 She got a degree in engineering, electrical engineering. 321 00:17:02,115 --> 00:17:06,655 And then she always had a passion for teaching and missions. 322 00:17:06,985 --> 00:17:10,435 And again, like I said, she was Asian, but her, her country she 323 00:17:10,435 --> 00:17:12,645 wanted to go to always was to Africa. 324 00:17:12,875 --> 00:17:16,415 So she went, I believe with the Peace Corps for a year or two and 325 00:17:16,415 --> 00:17:20,415 taught math and stuff, and then came back, got her master's degree. 326 00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:24,470 But I still remember from an eight year old little girl told 327 00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:28,080 me that after I finished high school, I mean, after I finished 328 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,230 college, I want to be an engineer. 329 00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:30,290 I want all these things. 330 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:31,840 And it was already done in her mind. 331 00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:36,060 So the power of that at eight lived out through her life. 332 00:17:36,450 --> 00:17:38,540 And it did what she thought. 333 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:39,240 Well, as I said, 334 00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:40,690 Dr. William T Choctaw: for me, it started at five. 335 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:44,970 And one of the things that I do when I talk to young people, and particularly 336 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:50,670 young people who who maybe have not had it easy through life early on, you know, 337 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,610 pregnancies and other types of things, that, that parents are extraordinarily 338 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:56,940 powerful with their children. 339 00:17:58,305 --> 00:18:01,435 And I tell them, I said, be careful what you say to your children, 340 00:18:01,795 --> 00:18:06,575 because what you say, you can, you can make occur good or bad. 341 00:18:07,025 --> 00:18:10,835 You know, you can say, John, you will become a doctor, you will be 342 00:18:10,835 --> 00:18:15,235 a doctor, or you can say, John, you're, you're no good, you're bad, 343 00:18:15,235 --> 00:18:16,325 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 344 00:18:16,645 --> 00:18:19,550 So, I tell parents, I say, use your words carefully. 345 00:18:19,550 --> 00:18:23,240 Yes, you can discipline your child, but do it in a way that does not 346 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,980 defeat their character at all. 347 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,830 I, Rick, just to share a real quick example, as you were saying, 348 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,620 I have six, my wife and I have six grandkids and that's, that's 349 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:36,010 the world, just beautiful world. 350 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:40,390 And my oldest grandson is named Vincent and Vincent was having some 351 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:42,660 challenges in junior high school. 352 00:18:43,325 --> 00:18:47,485 Vincent lives in Chula Vista, California with his dad, my son Preston. 353 00:18:47,485 --> 00:18:50,815 So my, so my son called me and said, you know, dad, you know, would, would 354 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:52,495 you have a conversation with Vincent? 355 00:18:52,495 --> 00:18:54,115 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 356 00:18:54,115 --> 00:18:55,285 And I said, no problem. 357 00:18:55,665 --> 00:18:59,295 So I, I, I talked to my son and I said, why, why don't you let 358 00:18:59,295 --> 00:19:01,335 me, let him visit us for a week? 359 00:19:01,965 --> 00:19:06,555 And so I, he, he came up and good kid, basically. 360 00:19:06,885 --> 00:19:10,085 But it was the same basic thing, teacher doesn't like me, 361 00:19:10,125 --> 00:19:12,365 teacher's mean, teacher's bad. 362 00:19:12,745 --> 00:19:17,375 And I sort of looked at him and he's, what was he, probably like about 14. 363 00:19:17,715 --> 00:19:20,195 And I said, Vincent, nobody cares. 364 00:19:20,790 --> 00:19:21,920 Nobody cares. 365 00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:25,360 I said, You're going to have good teachers and you're going to have bad teachers. 366 00:19:25,670 --> 00:19:28,740 Nobody cares if your teacher is a good teacher or bad teacher. 367 00:19:28,770 --> 00:19:31,020 I said, The issue is what are you going to do? 368 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:31,920 That's right. 369 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:32,700 You're going to do. 370 00:19:32,980 --> 00:19:36,900 And I was able to, I think we were able to have a conversation where 371 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:38,500 he understood it was up to him. 372 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 That, you know, the, the quality of the teacher itself, 373 00:19:41,845 --> 00:19:43,220 it, it doesn't really matter. 374 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,710 Some will help him, some will not help him, but it's basically a wash. 375 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:53,400 And, you know, now he's, he's, he's applying to college 3.8 average and Amen. 376 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,030 You know a scholar he's a soccer aficionado at his high school. 377 00:19:58,420 --> 00:19:58,450 Okay. 378 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:02,080 And so, so he's, he started, he'll be starting college next year. 379 00:20:02,765 --> 00:20:03,465 Keith Hansen: Okay, good. 380 00:20:03,495 --> 00:20:04,275 Where is he going to go to? 381 00:20:04,665 --> 00:20:07,975 Dr. William T Choctaw: Well, he's applying to all the UC schools 382 00:20:08,235 --> 00:20:10,900 and and maybe some schools outside 383 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:11,890 Keith Hansen: of, of UC. 384 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:14,330 Did he receive any scholarships for soccer? 385 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:17,370 Dr. William T Choctaw: He looked into some, didn't receive, he has 386 00:20:17,370 --> 00:20:20,360 one scholarship, not for soccer, he has one academic scholarship. 387 00:20:20,785 --> 00:20:24,865 But he looked into some some scholarships for soccer, but hasn't 388 00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:26,775 gotten anything specifically yet. 389 00:20:27,175 --> 00:20:31,185 But, but the part of I'm trying to make is that a lot of our 390 00:20:31,185 --> 00:20:32,545 kids never get to that point. 391 00:20:32,685 --> 00:20:35,235 They don't say, yes, I can't afford it. 392 00:20:35,475 --> 00:20:37,145 My parents don't have any money. 393 00:20:37,295 --> 00:20:38,675 All of which I'm sure is true. 394 00:20:38,675 --> 00:20:42,465 But what I learned, particularly if you go to certain schools, like an I 395 00:20:42,465 --> 00:20:44,695 believe schools, they pay you to come. 396 00:20:45,105 --> 00:20:45,685 Keith Hansen: That's right. 397 00:20:45,815 --> 00:20:46,275 Because you're 398 00:20:46,525 --> 00:20:47,515 Dr. William T Choctaw: doing them the favor. 399 00:20:47,835 --> 00:20:48,385 That's right. 400 00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:51,385 And I will now, you know, as I went through Tennessee 401 00:20:51,385 --> 00:20:52,945 State, I struggle with money. 402 00:20:52,945 --> 00:20:54,705 I worried about almost every day. 403 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:59,780 But when I got to the point where I was able to get into a Yale, Yale says, you 404 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:01,980 don't have to worry about money anymore. 405 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:05,420 You will not drop out of Yale because you don't have any money. 406 00:21:05,730 --> 00:21:09,440 Now, if you have scholarship, probably if you have grades problem, it's a different 407 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,880 issue, but we will not allow you to drop out because you don't have money. 408 00:21:13,390 --> 00:21:16,400 And, and they didn't, and, and, and I did not drop out. 409 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,690 So, so those things are there, but you got to get to that level. 410 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:20,990 And most students don't know 411 00:21:20,990 --> 00:21:25,370 Keith Hansen: that they don't want to, one of the things and To your point 412 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:31,280 there about just what you said could have ignited something in him that will, will 413 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,280 help him soar for the rest of their life. 414 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,090 I always say it's an aeronautical thing that your attitude will 415 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,980 determine your altitude and your altitude is pointed up and you're 416 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:42,770 excited about it and interested in it. 417 00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:44,970 You're going to soar and hit the clouds. 418 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,060 I think of one of the things that you talked about, the power of. 419 00:21:49,855 --> 00:21:54,615 persuasion and what we say to propel our kids into greatness. 420 00:21:54,955 --> 00:21:56,805 I always tell the youth about the bicycle. 421 00:21:57,485 --> 00:22:01,720 I said as a kid You look at that contraption and you know, you have 422 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,520 no business riding that thing. 423 00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:04,510 You don't know how to do it. 424 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,480 You can fall is dangerous. 425 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:10,690 You get caught up in the gears and the spokes and all this, but because of 426 00:22:10,690 --> 00:22:15,390 the persuasion of a parent, a father, uncle, or whatever, they tell you, 427 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:17,000 you can do this, you can do this. 428 00:22:17,230 --> 00:22:19,630 And you're thinking, no, I can't, I don't know how to ride this thing. 429 00:22:19,650 --> 00:22:21,240 And then you're going to take the training wheels off. 430 00:22:21,490 --> 00:22:25,120 This is a death trap, but because you sit up there and gas them up. 431 00:22:25,515 --> 00:22:28,815 Next thing you know, they're riding, they're doing something that they 432 00:22:28,815 --> 00:22:32,435 never have been able to do before or would have never done on their own 433 00:22:32,475 --> 00:22:33,445 because they wouldn't have tried it. 434 00:22:33,915 --> 00:22:35,895 And that sets them up for their life. 435 00:22:35,915 --> 00:22:39,085 And sometimes, different times in life, they may have not ridden a 436 00:22:39,085 --> 00:22:41,785 bike for years, but as soon as they see it, they can jump back on it. 437 00:22:41,785 --> 00:22:42,935 Once you learn it, you don't forget. 438 00:22:42,935 --> 00:22:44,334 Dr. William T Choctaw: Into 439 00:22:44,335 --> 00:22:47,935 Keith Hansen: a level of believing into themselves and persuading 440 00:22:47,935 --> 00:22:50,855 their self into doing something that they never thought they could do. 441 00:22:50,855 --> 00:22:56,880 So the power of Of persuading people to do stuff like that can set them into 442 00:22:56,900 --> 00:23:02,550 new heights and release them from the confines of I could not ride a bicycle. 443 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,830 I have to write it with training wheels on and before they know it, they're doing it. 444 00:23:06,910 --> 00:23:08,940 And so that's that's 1 of the things. 445 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:09,990 I was thinking of 2. 446 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:12,650 1 of the things you said a couple of things that are coming to 447 00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:16,660 mind, but One of the things is there's a guy named Jawanza Kajufu. 448 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:20,080 He wrote a book called the conspiracy to destroy black boys. 449 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,940 And he talks about things of what people say and do that can 450 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:27,590 help or destroy a young man. 451 00:23:27,860 --> 00:23:29,830 And he goes in many ways of explaining it. 452 00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:33,780 But one of the things he says is we start off how we love, 453 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,360 how we love our daughters. 454 00:23:35,845 --> 00:23:36,215 Excuse me. 455 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:39,755 We raise our daughters and we love our sons little girls at an early age. 456 00:23:39,765 --> 00:23:40,575 We start telling them. 457 00:23:40,575 --> 00:23:41,735 Oh, you can't do like this. 458 00:23:41,735 --> 00:23:42,645 You got to sit like this. 459 00:23:42,645 --> 00:23:43,605 You can't talk like that. 460 00:23:43,975 --> 00:23:45,295 Don't put your feet up on the table. 461 00:23:45,295 --> 00:23:48,925 That's not what ladies do, but little boys, they sit and laugh at it and let 462 00:23:48,925 --> 00:23:50,575 them learn survival of the fittest. 463 00:23:50,765 --> 00:23:51,015 Yes. 464 00:23:51,015 --> 00:23:51,525 So. 465 00:23:51,820 --> 00:23:57,370 They just learn again OJT where little girls are very deliberate and intentional, 466 00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:02,100 you know, and so I think this is where we get little girls like you said that 467 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,140 are on point taking care of business. 468 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:09,010 My daughters were homework machines, and they were self sufficient. 469 00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:12,420 I didn't even a lot of times know what was going on but they 470 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,790 always taking care of I got it. 471 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:18,330 My son, I had a whiteboard, and we go through painstaking stuff. 472 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:19,880 Doing it over and over. 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,550 But he got it. 474 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,110 He learned it. 475 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:22,490 But it was a way different. 476 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,050 It's 477 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:24,870 Dr. William T Choctaw: boys and girls are different. 478 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,490 And it's biological. 479 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:27,960 You touched on it. 480 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,490 But one of the points I think is so important in terms of youth 481 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:36,265 and youth development and and And scholarship, and that's competence. 482 00:24:36,745 --> 00:24:37,275 Yes. 483 00:24:37,425 --> 00:24:38,205 Competence. 484 00:24:38,585 --> 00:24:43,735 The reason why I was able to, I think in terms of what my mother told me, 485 00:24:43,745 --> 00:24:45,425 she told me I would be a doctor. 486 00:24:45,425 --> 00:24:49,185 Now, I didn't know why, I didn't even know what a doctor was, but that 487 00:24:49,275 --> 00:24:52,815 put a certain level of confidence in me, so my mother wouldn't lie to 488 00:24:52,815 --> 00:24:54,715 me, because she's my mother, right? 489 00:24:54,965 --> 00:24:58,735 So I just took that with me until I sort of figured it out, and, 490 00:24:58,745 --> 00:25:02,345 and what I see a lot of times in school, and even in families. 491 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:05,370 that we destroy the confidence in our youth. 492 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:10,600 Again, by stuff we say to them when we get upset, and we criticize them 493 00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:16,110 by, by talking about how they look, if they're too fat, if they're too dark, if 494 00:25:16,110 --> 00:25:19,340 they're too tall, if they're too short, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 495 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:21,360 We destroy that confidence. 496 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:27,060 And once that confidence is broken, then it's difficult for them to to, to move 497 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,940 up and to get it back together again. 498 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:32,310 And so we have to make them, let them know that they can be anything. 499 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:34,430 I just tell my kids, there are no limits on you. 500 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,090 There are no limits, except what you put on yourself. 501 00:25:37,330 --> 00:25:38,840 If you want to do it, you can do it. 502 00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:39,970 So go 503 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:40,400 Keith Hansen: for it. 504 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:40,970 Go for it. 505 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:45,660 I tell people that raising children is like holding wet clay in your hand and 506 00:25:45,660 --> 00:25:47,770 everything you do molds and shapes them. 507 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,530 And whatever you do leaves a scar on them. 508 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:51,470 It can be a good one. 509 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:52,790 Or it can be a bad one. 510 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:57,620 I think one of the things, too, that I was telling our youth is, oh, two things. 511 00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:00,880 One, that whatever you go to school for, whatever you want to 512 00:26:00,890 --> 00:26:02,860 study, now there's been a shift. 513 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,780 Back in the day, they used to tell kids, go to school and study what you love. 514 00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:07,880 I don't say that. 515 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:10,470 You need to meet your education. 516 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,040 You need to take control of it. 517 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,690 It needs to meet these three requirements. 518 00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:18,160 Whatever you study needs to be scalable, sustainable, and marketable. 519 00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:21,670 If it does not meet those three requirements, you do not have a career. 520 00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:22,470 Okay. 521 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:23,270 You have a job. 522 00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:28,320 So therefore, then I went to explain them the difference between a career and a job. 523 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,190 A career. 524 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:30,110 I can put you in Djibouti. 525 00:26:30,550 --> 00:26:31,850 I can put you in Somalia. 526 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:32,770 I can put you in. 527 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:37,440 And anywhere you go, you can get you a job because that's 528 00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:38,680 something that is marketable. 529 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,780 It's scalable level for you to move up into and sustainable by 530 00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:44,760 nature of what it is that you do. 531 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,720 So you will be able to enjoy eating and living indoors. 532 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:54,710 I was telling the kids again, one of the things well and it started way 533 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:59,690 back with Xavier pastor Dockery's grandson, he put him in a school in 534 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,940 Hacienda Heights instead of with his friends because he was messing up. 535 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,630 He took the initiative to take him out of that before he drowned and, and fail and 536 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:11,770 put him somewhere to be able to succeed. 537 00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:16,580 And he was very upset and he was talking to me about it and we talked and I 538 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:18,570 said to him what's the problem with it? 539 00:27:18,610 --> 00:27:19,180 Go. 540 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,110 There's a book called grow where your planet. 541 00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:23,360 I said, you're there, you go, you soar, you take. 542 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:26,015 Care of business and do what you need to do and get it done. 543 00:27:26,155 --> 00:27:27,175 Don't worry about all those. 544 00:27:27,835 --> 00:27:28,945 And he says, Oh, I can't go there. 545 00:27:28,945 --> 00:27:30,215 And it's a school. 546 00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:31,095 I said, what's the difference? 547 00:27:31,095 --> 00:27:32,935 He says, Oh, there's a lot of Asian kids over there. 548 00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:34,465 I said, so what's the difference? 549 00:27:34,495 --> 00:27:36,279 He said, I'm not as smart as them. 550 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:40,054 But there you go. 551 00:27:40,055 --> 00:27:41,485 He said, I'm not as smart as them. 552 00:27:41,485 --> 00:27:42,555 I said, that's not true. 553 00:27:42,645 --> 00:27:45,665 And it was like EF Hutton, all those kids in the class kind of got quiet. 554 00:27:46,335 --> 00:27:50,535 And I said, if you do what they do, you will be as smart as they are. 555 00:27:50,675 --> 00:27:50,915 Yes. 556 00:27:50,985 --> 00:27:52,095 And they started listening. 557 00:27:52,095 --> 00:27:55,395 And through College Bound, we learned about some of these things that happen 558 00:27:55,395 --> 00:27:59,815 like this, that it is deliberate and intentional with their education. 559 00:28:00,105 --> 00:28:03,595 I asked them, I said, how many of you When you come home from 560 00:28:03,595 --> 00:28:04,955 school, rewrite your notes. 561 00:28:04,955 --> 00:28:06,035 None of them raised their hand. 562 00:28:06,545 --> 00:28:07,275 I said, okay. 563 00:28:07,515 --> 00:28:10,305 I said, how many of you go to tutoring at least two to three times 564 00:28:10,305 --> 00:28:12,325 a week after you get out of school? 565 00:28:12,645 --> 00:28:13,845 None of them raised their hand. 566 00:28:14,005 --> 00:28:16,115 I said, how many of you go to Saturday school? 567 00:28:16,285 --> 00:28:17,535 None of them raised their hand. 568 00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:22,175 I said, these are some, if not all of the things that if you did what 569 00:28:22,175 --> 00:28:23,765 they did as to the spending time. 570 00:28:23,765 --> 00:28:23,885 Yeah. 571 00:28:24,125 --> 00:28:28,465 On my space, you know, Snapchat, this, that, and the other video games. 572 00:28:28,725 --> 00:28:30,035 You got to take ownership. 573 00:28:30,065 --> 00:28:32,575 This is when I was telling them of your education at an early age 574 00:28:32,575 --> 00:28:34,035 and you have to put it into it. 575 00:28:34,245 --> 00:28:35,545 There is no free lunch. 576 00:28:35,575 --> 00:28:35,885 Okay. 577 00:28:35,885 --> 00:28:36,965 It's not just going to happen. 578 00:28:37,145 --> 00:28:38,105 It's not magic. 579 00:28:38,475 --> 00:28:42,395 I said, so through college bound and Cerritos, their office was, and some 580 00:28:42,395 --> 00:28:46,225 of the people in the neighborhood there that were Asian was telling the people of 581 00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:50,725 college bound that during the summer, the next year's grade, if they're going to the 582 00:28:50,725 --> 00:28:54,670 eighth grade, They have people work with their kids during the summer with their 583 00:28:54,670 --> 00:28:59,880 math, English, science books, all these on their own, going through the book at least 584 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,880 once, if not twice during the summer. 585 00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:05,030 So when they roll into class, it's the third time seeing it. 586 00:29:05,230 --> 00:29:08,050 If you saw it three times, you'd look like a superstar too. 587 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:12,770 So again, I said, if you did what they did, you will be as smart as they are. 588 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,490 Put in the work. 589 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:15,980 It's not inbred. 590 00:29:16,330 --> 00:29:17,640 It's not inbred. 591 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,450 We, we talked about this again with some of our own kids. 592 00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:23,900 A couple of them want to put them on, put them out there, but it's true. 593 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:27,960 Is it learned behavior or is it inbred intelligence? 594 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:32,000 And I think of brother Patrick and sister Patrick, I knew them both before 595 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,570 they were married and was with him. 596 00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:36,070 And then brother Patrick and I went to college together. 597 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:40,760 He helped me graduate, dragged me through, but their, their sons. 598 00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:42,220 Are brilliant. 599 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,970 Each one of them in their own way. 600 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,900 And I said, is it because they have two brilliant parents that 601 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,170 they produce brilliant kids? 602 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,010 Or is it a system they have at their house that learned an appreciation for education 603 00:29:54,010 --> 00:29:56,470 made them as brilliant as they are? 604 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,890 There's a couple other families the same way, but that was the 605 00:29:58,890 --> 00:30:00,050 first one that came to mind. 606 00:30:00,430 --> 00:30:05,290 And I've noticed Some of the parents that appreciate and really 607 00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:09,470 work hard at their own education, they instill that in their kids. 608 00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:12,830 And therefore, so some of it is a learned behavior. 609 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,030 I don't think it's necessarily just inbred by nature of the parents producing 610 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,599 brilliant kids, but it takes work. 611 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:20,680 You just 612 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Dr. William T Choctaw: mentioned another church connection at St. 613 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,810 Stephen's. 614 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,340 I used to teach Sunday school at St. 615 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:27,710 Stephen's back in the day. 616 00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:29,660 We're talking about the 70s now. 617 00:30:30,550 --> 00:30:32,190 Faye Patrick was in my class. 618 00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:36,340 Faye Patrick was always a 4. 619 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:36,780 0 student. 620 00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:38,820 Straight up with everything. 621 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:40,400 I knew her well. 622 00:30:40,420 --> 00:30:41,940 I watched her grow up. 623 00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:47,000 And one of my joys has been when I've seen her. 624 00:30:47,235 --> 00:30:50,945 You know, married and with her kids and her sons and that sort of thing. 625 00:30:51,215 --> 00:30:53,895 But, but to your point, she, she, she was 4. 626 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:55,755 0 in high school. 627 00:30:55,805 --> 00:30:59,535 She had it in her head that that's, that's the way she was going to roll. 628 00:30:59,545 --> 00:31:00,705 That's the way she was going to do it. 629 00:31:00,935 --> 00:31:03,375 And obviously, and I'm sure her husband's contributed to that, 630 00:31:03,615 --> 00:31:05,465 but she passed it on to her kids. 631 00:31:07,065 --> 00:31:11,625 The other thing that I see, and I want to get your thoughts about this. 632 00:31:11,935 --> 00:31:14,465 There's all sorts of traps for our kids. 633 00:31:14,855 --> 00:31:17,885 One trap for our kids, Trump University. 634 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:23,955 My point, very simply, is a lot of things that are called colleges are not colleges. 635 00:31:24,355 --> 00:31:29,935 A lot of things that are called schools or universities are not universities. 636 00:31:30,255 --> 00:31:35,275 And what it does, it destroys the very best and brightest of our young people 637 00:31:35,535 --> 00:31:40,625 who barely get through high school, scrape together a few dollars, take out 638 00:31:40,635 --> 00:31:47,275 loans, whatever, whatever, whatever, and go to X, Y, Z school, you know, to get 639 00:31:47,275 --> 00:31:51,235 a certificate, but can't going back to your point, can't do anything with that 640 00:31:51,235 --> 00:31:55,205 certificate, you know, and even some of them are told that it's a college. 641 00:31:55,225 --> 00:31:56,345 It's not a college. 642 00:31:56,615 --> 00:31:58,535 It's not a college or university. 643 00:31:59,205 --> 00:32:03,055 And so they're, they're, they're even traps that work against our 644 00:32:03,055 --> 00:32:04,795 kids, even the ones who tried. 645 00:32:05,085 --> 00:32:09,455 Parents try and a lot of times parents don't know if they've not been enough 646 00:32:09,475 --> 00:32:11,555 to go through that, that experience. 647 00:32:11,565 --> 00:32:12,965 They don't know what that's like. 648 00:32:13,335 --> 00:32:16,255 And so many times it ends up being a double triple whammy for 649 00:32:16,255 --> 00:32:20,445 our kids, particularly minority kids and particularly minority 650 00:32:20,465 --> 00:32:21,595 Keith Hansen: male kids. 651 00:32:22,035 --> 00:32:27,555 Yes, I think one of the things we have to be willing and I try to more to share 652 00:32:27,555 --> 00:32:30,935 the knowledge when we have it, as well as the parents have to be willing to 653 00:32:30,935 --> 00:32:32,625 receive it and do something with it. 654 00:32:33,235 --> 00:32:33,975 Next week. 655 00:32:35,125 --> 00:32:38,625 I think it's next week February 10 black college expo is coming up. 656 00:32:39,115 --> 00:32:44,345 And back in the day, when my kids would go a lot of times I would take boatloads 657 00:32:44,415 --> 00:32:48,395 truckloads of the kids and parents, oh they're too busy this that and the other. 658 00:32:48,785 --> 00:32:52,735 I want them to go by any means necessary, see what's there, learn and have that 659 00:32:52,735 --> 00:32:54,695 experience and see what's out there. 660 00:32:54,985 --> 00:32:57,325 But the parent involvement is paramount. 661 00:32:57,695 --> 00:33:00,275 I have a relative, her daughter is a brilliant girl. 662 00:33:00,605 --> 00:33:01,665 I want her to go. 663 00:33:01,905 --> 00:33:04,785 But the parent, when I told her about it happening, Oh, I think I have 664 00:33:04,785 --> 00:33:05,625 to work this, that and the other. 665 00:33:05,655 --> 00:33:06,515 They have to take. 666 00:33:06,855 --> 00:33:09,185 And make sacrifices for it. 667 00:33:09,215 --> 00:33:11,155 I have two other young boys. 668 00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:12,225 I'm going to try to take them. 669 00:33:12,235 --> 00:33:13,715 Their father died recently. 670 00:33:13,805 --> 00:33:17,005 And the mother is raising them now and taking care of them. 671 00:33:17,265 --> 00:33:18,235 Brilliant kids. 672 00:33:18,445 --> 00:33:21,405 And I said, if you can't take them, I'll take them. 673 00:33:21,615 --> 00:33:24,945 But the parents need to know what goes on, how it goes on, what's happening. 674 00:33:25,125 --> 00:33:28,075 So they know how to work with them and navigate the stuff. 675 00:33:28,185 --> 00:33:34,290 Many times If you do what is necessary, you can prepare them for success 676 00:33:34,290 --> 00:33:36,430 before through a college bound. 677 00:33:36,430 --> 00:33:38,250 They have a couple of things that they learned. 678 00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:42,960 I mean, not college bound council on african american parenting that training 679 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,480 of African American boys and helping them excel in math will give them the 680 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320 confidence to do anything and everything. 681 00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:54,270 So they have a program on Saturdays they do at UC Riverside. 682 00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:56,360 As a matter of fact, my daughter Jada, who's very good 683 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,950 with math is one of my sons 684 00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:59,510 Dr. William T Choctaw: graduated from UC Riverside. 685 00:33:59,650 --> 00:33:59,960 Did he? 686 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,200 He's an older son. 687 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,620 Keith Hansen: Yeah. 688 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:04,080 And they work with the kids. 689 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:07,380 And help them tutor them with their current math, but prepare 690 00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:08,620 them for their next year's math. 691 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:13,240 So that during the summer, they take a six weeks class with adults. 692 00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:14,880 They're sitting in the first two rows. 693 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,070 They have these t shirts that they wear. 694 00:34:17,090 --> 00:34:18,420 They have certain things they have to do. 695 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,280 They have mandatory tutoring with a person before they go to class. 696 00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:25,560 And that propelled, there was one of them, Chris Okeani. 697 00:34:25,570 --> 00:34:29,750 This kid was below junior high and taking college level classes 698 00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:32,950 with adults, but because of the preparation they did, he soared. 699 00:34:33,315 --> 00:34:33,755 Okay. 700 00:34:33,755 --> 00:34:37,525 And some of these adults were tripping that I'm grown and these young kids in 701 00:34:37,525 --> 00:34:41,385 these first two rows are killing the math, but they put in a lot of work with them. 702 00:34:41,855 --> 00:34:46,135 And so it propels them when they do it for six weeks, it gets their 703 00:34:46,135 --> 00:34:47,675 next year's math out of the way. 704 00:34:47,965 --> 00:34:51,175 My son, the first year he did it and he went to Etiwanda High School. 705 00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:55,195 I went back and showed them what he had done, and I caught all kind of problems. 706 00:34:55,195 --> 00:34:59,305 I had to go to the Because they were like, this is something that quote 707 00:34:59,305 --> 00:35:03,105 unquote, most kids, they didn't want to say African American kids don't do 708 00:35:03,105 --> 00:35:07,755 during the summer, they don't take extra classes so there was not a normal summer. 709 00:35:07,995 --> 00:35:11,115 Yeah, this is, yeah, they would say this is not normal this is and I'm 710 00:35:11,115 --> 00:35:12,665 like, Okay, but it's not illegal. 711 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,540 And I had to fight with them, but after going through the motions and they saw 712 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:20,310 what was happening, then it was well received and they gave them the next 713 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:23,960 year's credit and propel them so that you finish calculus before you graduate. 714 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,670 So there was no question about, are your math skills good 715 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:27,900 enough to get you into college? 716 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:30,600 And that was a big problem for our African American boys. 717 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:32,450 So again, it takes work. 718 00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:33,930 We was going to Saturday school. 719 00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:35,760 We go to the program that's on Sunday. 720 00:35:36,165 --> 00:35:41,695 These things take work, sacrifice in order to, to make it possible so that 721 00:35:41,695 --> 00:35:45,405 you can matriculate through your years of freshman, this, that, and the other. 722 00:35:45,765 --> 00:35:49,445 And little things that you learn and transfer to these kids along 723 00:35:49,445 --> 00:35:51,725 the way to help them be successful. 724 00:35:52,155 --> 00:35:55,405 Right now, there's a huge number, well, not a huge, a large number of 725 00:35:55,405 --> 00:36:00,065 African American boys that get into college as freshmen, but by the time 726 00:36:00,065 --> 00:36:01,725 the four years is over, they vanish. 727 00:36:01,765 --> 00:36:01,995 They vanish. 728 00:36:02,815 --> 00:36:03,175 Yes. 729 00:36:03,385 --> 00:36:04,595 Because you can't graduate. 730 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:05,330 Just gonna 731 00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:06,260 Dr. William T Choctaw: college alone. 732 00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:07,010 It's not enough. 733 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:07,370 You gotta 734 00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:07,760 Keith Hansen: graduate. 735 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Correct. 736 00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:12,380 That's the other thing we have to address and help them make wise 737 00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:15,410 choices and keep their skills together where they don't fall apart. 738 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:19,065 I think of one of our young boys who did that and I had him in high school. 739 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:22,755 He was going to Grambling and all of a sudden he called me and was 740 00:36:22,755 --> 00:36:25,725 telling me there was some problems and I didn't know what happened. 741 00:36:25,965 --> 00:36:28,035 Thought he ran outta money, but that wasn't a problem. 742 00:36:28,035 --> 00:36:28,875 It was academics. 743 00:36:28,965 --> 00:36:29,055 Mm-Hmm. 744 00:36:29,295 --> 00:36:31,305 . But his backup plan was to go into service. 745 00:36:31,305 --> 00:36:32,535 He went in the Air Force. 746 00:36:33,225 --> 00:36:35,405 He soared and is killing it and doing great. 747 00:36:35,845 --> 00:36:41,205 So he had enough wherewithal to know that the toilet was getting ready to flush 748 00:36:41,205 --> 00:36:45,175 on what he was doing, but he had a plan to do something else, rescue himself, 749 00:36:45,525 --> 00:36:47,315 and keep going forward, which he did.