From Panic to Peace: Reframing Your Thoughts to Reduce Anxiety

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Jesse: Coming up on this episode of
the Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise podcast.

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Dr William T Choctaw: Emotions are
those things that we experience that

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we can't always explain because our
emotions are not always logical.

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Think about that.

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What is love?

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Love is an emotion.

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Is it logical?

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Not always.

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All right.

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Um, the other thing that's
particularly important about

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the amygdala and emotion Welcome

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Jesse: to the healthy, wealthy,
and wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD, where the
doctor helps you unlock your

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full potential by equipping you.

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surveyor for the joint commission,
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So let's get started.

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Here's Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw,

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Rev Collins: MD, JD.

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Good morning, everyone.

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Good morning, everyone.

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Good morning.

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What I want to do is to read you, uh,
scripture here on Psalms one, and he

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reads, thus blessed is the man that walk
it not in the council of the ungodly, not

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nor standard in the way the sin, uh, sit
it in the seat of the squam, but is the

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light is in the law of the Lord and in
his law, does he meditate day and night?

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And he shall be like a tree planted
by the rivers of water, that bringeth

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forth his fruit in his season.

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His leaf also shall not wither, and
whatsoever he doth shall prosper.

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The ungodly are not so, but are like
this shelf, which the wind driveth away.

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Therefore the ungodly shall not
stand in the judgment, nor sinners in

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this congregation of the righteous.

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For the Lord knoweth the
way of the righteous.

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But the way of the ungodly shall perish.

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Let us go to the Lord in prayer.

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Father God Almighty, we come to
this morning, my father, first I

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just want to thank you, my father.

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Thank you, my father, for our lying
down last night and our rising up this

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morning, and closing our right minds
with all our spiritual, physical,

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mental capacities, parts of our problem.

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Thank you, my father, it's all because
of you that we're at this particular

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point in time, my father, that we're
in the land of the living once more and

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again, not for ourselves, but for others.

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But for you, you share your word with
others and let them know that you are

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the way, the truth, and the light.

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We pray now to my father to bless our
presenter today, my father, fill him with

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your Holy Spirit wisdom and knowledge so
you can be able to give us the things that

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you want us to have and understand, my
father, so our life will be much better,

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my father, knowing you and knowing the
things we should do and not do, my father.

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So, Father God, I might as ask you
for this and I thank you for this.

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In your daughter's name,
Jesus Christ, holy name, amen.

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Dr.

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Chogchov.

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Dr William T Choctaw: Good
morning to all of you.

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Welcome to the Healthy, Wealthy, Wise
podcast, podcast and masterclass.

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As you can tell, we've been
having a lot of fun this morning.

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Welcome to the Leadership
Masterclass, um, and, uh, we have a

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very exciting topic for you today.

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Uh, it's a topic that I've been working
on for quite some time, and it's one

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that we can all sort of identify with.

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Today we're going to talk about
how to control anxiety, and

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included in that we're going to
include the seven Bible poems.

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And we'll talk about that a bit later.

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Today's Masterclass presentations.

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Uh, that we've been doing for a year
and a half now are designed basically,

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uh, to increase our leadership ability.

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Uh, and the way we do that is that we
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and we take it to the next level.

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What does that mean?

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It means that when you get information
from this, from this class, um, first

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you want to receive that information.

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Then we want that information
to change you in somehow.

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It may change what you do, it may change
how you act, it may change how you speak,

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but that's my definition of education.

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Education is received of information that
changes behavior, that changes behavior.

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And thirdly, we want you to
use this information, uh, and

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as a motivational process.

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Have you to help somebody else.

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So there are three things.

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We want you to be informed.

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We want you to be educated and
we want you to be motivated.

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And that's what a
leadership masterclass is.

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You can go to a regular masterclass,
but not a leadership masterclass.

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As always, I like to always
start off with our beliefs.

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I believe that life is about
being of service to others.

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I believe knowledge is power.

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I believe leaders can change the world.

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As we talk about anxiety, and as we
talk about, um, problems that we have

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in terms of how we think and how we deal
with things, I want us to keep in mind

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that we're talking about mental health,
spiritual health, and physical health.

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As always, I like to put up an outline.

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So we're going to talk
about anxiety today.

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We're going to define it for you.

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Uh, we're going to talk about
the different types of anxiety

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to sort of divide it into what's
important and what's not important.

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Um, and we're going to talk about
ways of dealing with anxiety.

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Uh, how we do thought reframing,
how we do, um, deal with negative

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thoughts, et cetera, et cetera.

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Uh, and then we'll end up when we
talk about the seven Bible palms,

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Psalms, and the serenity prayer.

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Well, those of you who've been with us
over a year, you remember this slide.

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Uh, and this is our brain.

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This is with us looking to the left.

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So if one were to take a slice through
our brain, uh, what's important

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is for you to understand that
everything we do, certainly thinking

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and planning, occurs in the brain.

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Uh, not only does it occur in
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prefrontal area of the brain.

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Okay?

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We call that the prefrontal cortex.

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This is where our thoughts occur.

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Uh, and this is where our activities,
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So I want you to be aware of the
prefrontal part of the brain or the

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forehead part of the brain, if you will.

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Okay?

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Um, and so everything we do, and
a good way to think about this is

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think about an airplane and think
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It sits in the top part of the
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plane, and that, and that's what
our thinking does with our brain.

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The other parts of the brain,
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Um, uh, but I want you to
particularly look at the green area.

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Uh, we've talked about that green
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That's the amygdala.

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Amygdala, um, and why is
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Because the amygdala is involved,
uh, with emotion, emotion.

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Emotion are those things that
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always explain because our
emotions are not always logical.

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Think about that.

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What is love?

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Love is an emotion.

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Is it logical?

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Not always.

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All right.

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Um, the other thing that's particularly
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emotion is when we talk about artificial
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computers and the chat boxes and all that
bots and everything going to take over.

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So far, theoretically, the
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computer is that we have feelings.

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F E E L I N G S.

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Based on emotions, based on our amygdala.

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Uh, now there are some, um,
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the, the artificial intelligence
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What we call sentience, or how
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that's the big debate right now.

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But I go back to one of the
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is that we have feelings and emotions.

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Now those emotions are there to help us,
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properly, can end up, um, uh, hurting us
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So keep that in mind.

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And we frequently are going
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believe affects how we think.

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What we think affects how we feel
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Okay?

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Beliefs, thoughts, feelings, and actions.

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They're all connected.

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They're all connected.

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But here's the good news.

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They're your beliefs, your thoughts,
your feelings, and your actions.

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And so if they're yours,
you own them, right?

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And if you own them, you can change them.

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And so we're going to try
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Um, we strongly believe that certainly
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the help from medical professionals.

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Um, and we encourage you to
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will talk some more about that.

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But we also want you to add to that
self help or things that you can do

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yourself, uh, and that's what we're
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And that's what a lot of these
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about, you unlocking that power that's
within you, um, in addition to working

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with the healthcare professionals.

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So, if we were to do a wordle, W O
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somebody gives you a word and then
says, write down other words that you

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think about when I give you this word.

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Okay?

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So, if I were to give you the word
anxiety, anxiety to a group of people,

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and that's what was done here, uh,
and then the people were asked, well,

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write down what words come to your
mind when you hear the word anxiety.

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So these are the words
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Negative, failure, withdrawal, overwhelm,
fatigue, disorder, worry, temper, stress,

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nervous, despair, agitation, headache,
loneliness, mood, scared, anxiety.

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Why did I go through all that?

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Because a lot of times these words mean
different things to different people.

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So when I say anxiety,
What do you think about?

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Um, but for me, when I say
anxiety, the first word that comes

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to my mind is, is discomfort.

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When I'm anxious, I'm uncomfortable.

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I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
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physically, and spiritually.

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But, but, but just think
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And one of the things that we wanna do
is we want to define anxiety for you.

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One definition says that anxiety is
a sustained low level discomfort.

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characterized by worry,
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Anxiety is a sustained, over
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discomfort, okay, characterized
by worry, distress, and fear.

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So what we're going to look at
today is Low anxiety or very mild

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anxiety to very serious anxiety.

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And we're going to try to identify some
ways that you can tap into that cerebral

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cortex that you have that's unique to you
and manage some of that yourself prior

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to or in addition to you seeking medical,
um, inhibition should you need to.

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And we are going through stress
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to talk about stress too.

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I'm going to go back.

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Um, and let me go over a
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Fear.

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Fear is defined as an intense
emotional response that activates

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the fight or flight experience.

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Example, you're, uh,
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Um, and, uh, you just want to take one
of those walks and go be by yourself for

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a couple of days, et cetera, et cetera.

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And while you're out walking in
the woods, um, about 30 yards ahead

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of you, you see a bear, a black
bear, those real bad kind of bears.

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At that moment, you see that bear,
your fear immediately occurs.

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And what does that mean in
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That means fight or flight.

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You're going to either fight this
bear or you're going to run like heck.

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Which are you going to do?

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And the body is getting ready, right?

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Because once the brain sees that,
it goes through your eyes, it goes

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immediately to that cerebral cortex,
the cerebral cortex sends a message

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to your heart, start working.

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Heart starts pumping, starts pumping,
sends a message to your brain, breathe.

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quickly because I'm ready to
do something here and I'm not

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sure what it's going to be.

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So my point is that all those
things occur in milliseconds.

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You don't have to think about it.

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They just occur instantly.

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And that's how brilliant the body is.

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I viewed the body as the greatest, um, um,
uh, supercomputer that was ever created.

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Better than all the supercomputers
that we're concerned about now, the

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chat boxes and, and that sort of thing.

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So that's, so fear has a protective.

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Purpose, among other things.

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Now, you can use that fear and
have it work against you, where you

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can just start fearing everything.

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And that's sort of what
we're going to talk about.

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The third part and the third
definition I want to go into is stress.

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So we talk about anxiety, which
is a sustained, uh, low level

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discomfort over a period of time.

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We talk about fear, which
is the fight or flight.

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type of feeling when, when, and, and the
fear goes very fast, it doesn't last very

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long because once the bear goes away, you
run away from it or it's got you either

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way, that's not going to last very long.

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Okay.

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Or stress and stress is sort of the
body's response to anxiety and fear.

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And we'll, we'll tease
that out a bit more.

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Uh, now next slide.

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So how do you deal with all that?

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I'm sure a lot of us have had days
like the day this lady's having, okay,

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where you're just feeling overwhelmed.

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You're saying, you know what, I'm treading
water here, I'm doing my best, but

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there's only so much I can do, right?

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Okay?

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And that's true.

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So, number one, having
Anxiety is normal, is normal.

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It is not an illness.

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It is not a disease.

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It is not something wrong with you.

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That is normal.

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That is your body saying, okay,
I'm trying to help you here.

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All right.

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And so you need to pay extra attention
to this or extra attention to that.

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Um, as, as, as time goes on.

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All right.

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So what we want to do is to help
individuals who experiencing what

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this young lady is experiencing.

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She is clearly overwhelmed
and we've all been there.

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So, remember, minimum anxiety
is discomfort, my definition.

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So, I want to go into, again, minimum,
low level types of anxiety, and I want

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to digress a little bit to explain it
by talking about personality types.

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Now, I'm sure all of us are familiar
with this in one way or another.

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Usually, this comes up on your job.

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And regardless of what position you
have, whether you're a rank and file or

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you're a manager or you're a supervisor,
or you're in the C suite, the executive

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suite, and somewhere, particularly if
you work for big corporations, they say,

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you know, we need to have a retreat.

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You know, we need to take all of our staff
out and, you know, and usually retreats

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involve a lot of trees and a lot of water.

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So wherever you go, there's
got to be trees and water.

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All right.

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And so you go out and then they bring
in some expert who comes in and,

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uh, and has presented to the boss.

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Well, you know, if you understand your
employees, different personality types,

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you can improve your production because
you can put the right types with the

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right types and, and avoid conflict.

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Well, that's an illusion, but, but
that, that, that's another thing.

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Okay.

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But what I want to talk about is that
there really are personality types.

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Right?

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There really are personality types.

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My definition of a personality type
is where you feel most comfortable.

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Where you feel most comfortable.

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No type is better than any other type.

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Okay?

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It's where you feel most comfortable.

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So I'll use myself as an example.

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Uh, and now here, this
author talks about dominant,

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influential, Steady and compliant.

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Another way of saying that is controller,
a promoter, supporter, and analyst.

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So let's start with the
red square dominant.

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I'm most comfortable
in the dominant square.

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That's sort of the way I grew up.

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You know, I've told the story before.

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My mother told me I would be a doctor.

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I believed her.

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I was about five years old at the time.

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And voila!

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You know, as mothers tend
to be, she was right.

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And here I am.

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But the point I want to make is there are
pros and cons with each personality type.

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Okay, the pros and cons, and so
we're going to get into, we're

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going to spend a little time on
this because this is important.

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So the dominant type tend to be,
um, very decisive, um, uh, they

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tend to be time and task oriented.

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Natural leaders, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.

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That's, that's the positive part of it.

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They, the negative part of the
dominant type is they may be jerks.

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You know, they, there may be that boss
who sort of tells everybody what to do, is

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rude, disrespectful, et cetera, et cetera.

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So just keep in mind there, there, there
are pros and cons to both types, but

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I'm just going to deal with the pros.

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So there is the dominant type.

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And again, dominant is no better than
influential or stable or compliant.

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It's just a type.

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So let's go to the yellow square.

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Influential.

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Influential folks are usually
what we call promoters.

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They're the outgoing people.

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They're people who love to be around
other people, who love parties, who love

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interreacting, who are warm and honest.

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Most people like them.

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They like being around
them because they're fun.

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You know, if you're going to have
a party, you want to invite one

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of those influential promoter
people, you know, because they'll

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help to make your party a success.

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Uh, you know, they make you feel good.

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You like being around them.

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They make you laugh or smile or whatever.

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The next square is the green,
which is what we call promoter.

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I mean, I mean, supporter.

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These are the study and stable people.

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These are individuals
who are absolutely loyal.

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Uh, there are folks who you work
with where no matter what you

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ask them to do, they will do
it, and they will do a good job.

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And, and these are the type of
folks that certain bosses like on a

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job, uh, because you don't have to
worry about them, they're going to

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do the best, it's going to be good.

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Um, um, and, and so everybody likes them.

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We call them supporters.

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Uh, and then they Uh, the blue, uh,
area is the compliant or the analyst.

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Now the analyst people
are like numbers people.

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They're the ones who actually read the
fine print on, on those cell phone,

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uh, things that when, when you buy a
cell phone and they give you all that

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fine print, they actually read it.

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They read all of it, you know,
because they're very analytical and

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they want to get everything right.

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Uh, they don't want to make
mistakes, et cetera, et cetera.

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So my point very simply is that
the pros and cons of both square.

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But whichever square
you're in, that's okay.

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It's where you are most comfortable.

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You are most comfortable.

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And Gallup, uh, and again, certainly
when you go to your handheld

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computer, your cell phone, uh, type
in, go into Gallup or Miles Briggs.

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You've all heard these terms many
times, and you can go and look at

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these four different types, right?

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But my point is, even though I may
be most comfortable as a dominant,

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maybe I should not always stay a dominant.

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Leadership, let's go back to leadership.

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Leaders can go to any square,
whatever is necessary at the time.

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Maybe let's say you're a dominant,
but maybe you're on a committee

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that you should not chair.

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You should not lead.

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Maybe you should be the person sitting
at the edge of the table and you

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let somebody else lead and you be
there to support her or to support

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him because that's what leaders do.

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Leaders sort of read the room.

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And they say, where can I best serve?

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Why?

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Because it's not about me.

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It's about what we're trying to get done.

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I call it about the team.

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It's about the team and I've said it many
times before, um, uh, you know, early

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on in my, my early career, particularly
in medical school in New Haven, um, as

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physicians, we were taught, you're it.

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And certainly as a trauma surgeon,
um, there, there, there are no

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discussions, there are no votes.

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I rolled into the emergency
room at three o'clock in the

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morning, I said, talk to me.

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And then they just started talking about,
we have a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I mean, I'm listening, I'm
doing all sorts of stuff.

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And I'm saying, okay, we go into the
OI, give me four units of O negative,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Done.

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End of discussion.

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But maybe in another situation
where I'm not the physician,

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um, my job is to say nothing.

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But listen.

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Because if I listen, I might learn
something, and if I'm really there for

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the team, not for me, but for the team,
I can best, on that occasion, contribute

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to the team by just being a supporter.

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Or being a promoter, or being an
analyst, and not being a domino.

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What's my point?

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My point is, feel free to move around
those squares however you need to.

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Why?

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Because a lot of our anxiety
is, Oh my goodness, I wanted

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to chair that committee.

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Why is Margaret chairing the committee?

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I could have done a good job, and
so I've created this anxiety, right?

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I'm stressing myself out, because I
couldn't get my comfortable square.

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Seriously, seriously.

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Okay.

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Think about that.

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Think about that.

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What's my point?

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My point is that some of our anxiety we
bring on ourselves, we bring on ourselves.

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So don't do it.

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Don't do it.

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Just stop it.

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Okay.

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Now, the other thing about these different
personality types is that as you grow,

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you move around, you become a promoter.

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a cheerleader.

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You become one of those folks who
is respectful to everybody else.

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Or you become a supporter.

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You say, I'll do whatever
you want me to do.

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You're the chief.

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You tell me what to do.

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I'll do it.

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Thank you, sir.

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Well, thank you, ma'am.

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Well, whatever.

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Or you become an analyst.

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They say, I want you to go and read
these ten documents and come back to

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me and tell me what we need to do.

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And you go and you read those ten
documents and you come back and

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you tell them what they want to do.

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So don't create your own anxiety
because you're afraid to move

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out of your comfort zone.

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Growth is moving out of your comfort zone.

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I'll give you one other quick example
in my life and then we'll move on.

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One of the best things I've done in
my career is run for city council.

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It's run for city council
and people say, what?

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Wait, wait, wait.

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You're a doctor, right?

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You do it in the city council.

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But true story, true story.

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Uh, and there was no great plan.

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I just woke up one day
and decided to do it.

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Um, but it made me a better doctor.

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And you say, well, how,
how does that compete?

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What was I, what does that have
to do with surgery and medicine?

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Absolutely nothing.

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And that's my point.

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That's my point.

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It was not my comfort zone.

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I was on the city council for eight years,
so I stayed with it, stayed with it.

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But the first couple years drove me
crazy because you couldn't do anything

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without people, everybody agreeing.

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And that would take months.

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And I said, Oh my God, how
do you people get so done?

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And they said, well, Dr.

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Chalk Chalk, this is
the way it works here.

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This is the way it works.

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I said, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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But my point is that as I
grew, as I learned, I said,

473
00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:46,159
okay, I'm one of those people.

474
00:25:46,219 --> 00:25:47,420
I'm not going to give up anything.

475
00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:49,870
I'll stay with it no matter what.

476
00:25:50,110 --> 00:25:53,070
But as I grew, I began to say.

477
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:54,250
Okay.

478
00:25:54,379 --> 00:25:54,899
All right.

479
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:56,159
I get it.

480
00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:56,770
I get it.

481
00:25:57,020 --> 00:26:00,840
It is good that we took an extra hour,
maybe a few days, maybe in a few weeks

482
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,960
or months to sort of work this out.

483
00:26:03,220 --> 00:26:08,210
Um, and, and I started
appreciating the benefit of that.

484
00:26:08,639 --> 00:26:09,939
So what's my point?

485
00:26:10,169 --> 00:26:15,939
Give yourself permission to move
around the four box, the four boxes.

486
00:26:16,969 --> 00:26:18,790
One box is not better than another.

487
00:26:18,790 --> 00:26:19,649
It's just different.

488
00:26:20,459 --> 00:26:22,199
We're not better than each other.

489
00:26:22,209 --> 00:26:23,529
We're just different.

490
00:26:24,175 --> 00:26:25,855
That's the way the father made it.

491
00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:27,264
I don't ask questions.

492
00:26:27,294 --> 00:26:28,245
I just say, okay.

493
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:29,130
Right?

494
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:33,680
So, if on a particular day, you are
not able to be your dominant self,

495
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:41,300
be, be, be a, an influential self, be
a steady, stable self, be a supporter

496
00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:44,220
of, or analytical of a compliance self.

497
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,420
Move around the four personality types.

498
00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:49,590
You have that ability.

499
00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:54,750
You can change that any day or time
you want, and you'll be amazed at

500
00:26:54,750 --> 00:27:00,305
how that will help you, uh, in terms
of, of, uh, Decreasing your anxiety.

501
00:27:00,765 --> 00:27:01,765
So what's my point?

502
00:27:02,385 --> 00:27:05,995
Some anxiety is self inflicted.

503
00:27:06,205 --> 00:27:07,395
We bring it on ourselves.

504
00:27:07,484 --> 00:27:09,645
No, not all, but, but some is.

505
00:27:10,055 --> 00:27:13,915
Very, very quickly, again, anxiety is
the feeling of apprehension or fear.

506
00:27:14,965 --> 00:27:20,165
I'm going to distinguish between
anxiety and anxiety disorder.

507
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,020
Okay.

508
00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:21,890
Just think about that.

509
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,330
Think about the term anxiety disorder.

510
00:27:24,330 --> 00:27:27,110
So disorder means
something is out of whack.

511
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,860
So a disorder is something that's more
likely to send you to a healthcare

512
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,739
profession, a psychologist, a
psychiatrist, a general practitioner,

513
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:38,759
um, and, and what's the difference?

514
00:27:39,399 --> 00:27:45,530
An anxiety disorder is something that
interferes with your normal activity.

515
00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:50,720
So it is the disorders.

516
00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:54,570
That many times that may very
well take us in to see the doctor.

517
00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:59,745
Now I am not one of those people who
thinks that everybody needs to be Um,

518
00:27:59,775 --> 00:28:04,985
um, deep in healthcare literature to
try to figure out is this something

519
00:28:05,004 --> 00:28:06,965
I need to see a doctor about or not.

520
00:28:07,464 --> 00:28:12,374
My belief on what I've always told my
patients is if you are worried, go see the

521
00:28:12,374 --> 00:28:14,735
doctor or come in and see me or call me.

522
00:28:15,085 --> 00:28:17,074
I just don't, don't try to figure it out.

523
00:28:17,075 --> 00:28:18,505
It's not your job to figure it out.

524
00:28:18,505 --> 00:28:20,325
That's what the healthcare
professionals are for.

525
00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:25,130
So if you are worried, if you are
concerned, uh, and maybe it's not

526
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:28,120
you, maybe it's your spouse, and maybe
it's a member of your family, maybe

527
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:33,770
it's your child, immediately seek
advice from a healthcare professional.

528
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:34,680
Why?

529
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:38,879
Because you save time, and quite
honestly, I don't see a downside to that.

530
00:28:39,149 --> 00:28:42,580
If you see that a healthcare professional
says, oh no, this is not X, this is

531
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:44,584
Y, You don't need to worry about it.

532
00:28:44,584 --> 00:28:46,054
Just do A, B, and C.

533
00:28:46,074 --> 00:28:46,814
You'll be fine.

534
00:28:46,944 --> 00:28:47,314
Good.

535
00:28:47,514 --> 00:28:50,334
Then you've eliminated
that degree of worry.

536
00:28:50,464 --> 00:28:53,684
You've gotten an answer and you
can move on to something else.

537
00:28:54,215 --> 00:28:56,044
So, so just, just think about that.

538
00:28:56,044 --> 00:29:00,844
So please remember that if, if, if
you're going through something like

539
00:29:00,844 --> 00:29:06,025
that and it's, it's bothering you,
Uh, then, then, uh, you want to

540
00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:09,145
then immediately go ahead and seek
a healthcare professional's advice.

541
00:29:09,535 --> 00:29:11,745
Let's just talk about
generalizing anxiety now.

542
00:29:11,795 --> 00:29:15,535
Again, I'm talking about the low
level type of anxiety, discomfort,

543
00:29:15,885 --> 00:29:17,184
personality type of discomfort.

544
00:29:17,215 --> 00:29:21,905
We haven't gotten into hospitalization
type of anxiety, but generalizing

545
00:29:21,915 --> 00:29:25,895
about anxiety, feeling word of
stress about things almost every day.

546
00:29:26,365 --> 00:29:31,815
Um, and this really gets into the anxiety
disorder, uh, feeling tired or irritable,

547
00:29:32,155 --> 00:29:33,794
and they have a hard time concentrating.

548
00:29:34,145 --> 00:29:37,945
Having headaches or muscle aches,
having a hard time getting to sleep.

549
00:29:37,945 --> 00:29:41,175
And sleep is a big one because
if you're not sleeping very

550
00:29:41,175 --> 00:29:43,314
well, it adds to your anxiety.

551
00:29:43,885 --> 00:29:45,334
It adds to your anxiety.

552
00:29:45,764 --> 00:29:47,715
Uh, so that, so sleep is huge.

553
00:29:47,985 --> 00:29:51,614
Um, and basically people with a
lot of anxiety are not having fun.

554
00:29:51,895 --> 00:29:52,474
They are not.

555
00:29:53,315 --> 00:29:58,435
And, and contrary to that, if you're
having fun, If you're enjoying yourself,

556
00:29:58,655 --> 00:30:02,105
even though you may have a little anxiety,
it's probably not, it may not be that bad.

557
00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:06,620
So just, just keep thinking about
those, uh, in, in different ways.

558
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,030
God, grant me the serenity to
accept the things I cannot change.

559
00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:16,480
Courage to change the things
I can and wisdom to know the

560
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,060
difference between the two.

561
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,280
Be the change that you
want to see in the world.

562
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,720
Have a great day.

563
00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:23,890
Thank you.

564
00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:26,235
Outstanding presentation.

565
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,015
Outstanding.

566
00:30:27,465 --> 00:30:28,635
Very informative.

567
00:30:29,055 --> 00:30:29,595
Thank you.

568
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,110
Thank you.

569
00:30:30,555 --> 00:30:31,350
Thank you very much.

570
00:30:31,935 --> 00:30:34,215
Jesse: Thank you for listening
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571
00:30:34,215 --> 00:30:36,677
wealthy, and Wise podcast with Dr.

572
00:30:36,677 --> 00:30:39,525
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573
00:30:39,825 --> 00:30:43,365
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574
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575
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576
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577
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578
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579
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580
00:31:04,105 --> 00:31:07,985
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581
00:31:07,985 --> 00:31:08,515
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582
00:31:08,515 --> 00:31:10,875
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