Managing the People Puzzle: Navigating Leadership Challenges with Emotional Intelligence

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Coming up on this episode of the
Healthy, Wealthy and Wise podcast.

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Okay.

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And I would advise anyone, you know,
if you have kids and if your kids,

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you know, are in sports or have any
type of skill or, or if they play

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music or if there's anything, I would
suggest that they really help them

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to be successful in that skill or.

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Or technique or whatever that they're
doing, because you never know how

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that can help them down the line,
not just with getting into getting

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into his particular school or

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welcome to the healthy, wealthy,
and wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD, this podcast will
provide you with tools and actionable

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information you can use to help live a
more healthy, wealthy, and wise life.

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It's powered by the over 50 years
of medical experience of this.

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medical school trained surgeon who is
also a western state law school trained

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attorney with executive experience being
a former mayor of walnut california

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as well as the current chairman of
the non profit servants arms and

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as president of chaka medical group
incorporated this is the leadership

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masterclass edition already in progress

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen,
to our next episode of the

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Healthy, Wealthy and Wise podcast.

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We are absolutely delighted to
have one of our unique leaders.

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And we indeed view this podcast as an
offshoot of the Leadership Masterclass.

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And one of the things that we try to
do on a regular basis is have leaders

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in different levels of leadership
and have them to stop by and share

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their words of wisdom with us.

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Uh, we are absolutely Uh,
thrilled, uh, to have, uh, Mr.

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Preston Choctaw.

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Now you may say, wait a
second, wait a second, Choctaw?

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I would say, yes, you heard that right.

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Uh, he is indeed one of my progeny.

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And we will, we will have him, uh, to tell
us about himself, but welcome Preston.

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Welcome to the Healthy,
Wealthy and Wise podcast.

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Well, thank you very much.

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Very glad to be here.

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Glad to be here.

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Give us your thoughts about leadership
and what has been your experience over,

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uh, your, your, uh, lifespan, uh, in terms
of, uh, what you think leadership is and,

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and how you've been involved with it.

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Yeah.

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Um, so, you know, it's, it's, it's kind
of funny actually, because I, I never, you

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know, growing up, uh, and when you have,
say, you know, parents and when you have

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a, You know, a father who's, who's always
talked about leadership and talked about,

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you know, what it is to be a leader and
you're a leader and this, this and this.

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Um, you know, I, I didn't really
understand what that really meant.

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You know, what is it, you know, is
it just that you just, you know, take

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the first step or you just tell people
what to do or, or, you know, what,

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what exactly does that, does that mean?

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Um, and, uh, I would say my first, my
first starting, when I started to really

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understand or at least have a concept
of what it is was through sports, you

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know, a lot of kids start playing, you
know, different, you know, sports and

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my sport was, was soccer, or I'll say
it still is soccer, um, and, um, there

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are a variety of times, whereas, uh,
because of, I would say my, my Tenacity

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of how I played on the field when I first
started playing, even though I wasn't, I

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didn't, I never considered myself really,
like, really, really good when I first

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started, but, you know, I had a drive.

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I had a motivation.

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I had.

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You know, I was, I was short.

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So I was too, too short to
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I was too light to be really
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soccer, I can, I can be fat.

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I will.

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So I can run.

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Um, but, and I was aggressive.

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Um, and as I began to keep playing,
I started to understand that, you

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know, the other players on the
field, my teammates, they started

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to look, look to me for guidance.

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Mm-Hmm.

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. Um, and I, I didn't understand
what that was at first.

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I didn't understand why
that was, but they they did.

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Yes.

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So then I began to look at, okay,
well then how can I guide them?

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How, how can I help them?

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Right?

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And there were different things
that I did for myself, like I would.

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Um, there are many times where I would
go in like my backyard or go to the

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park with just a soccer ball and I would
just work on stuff and I would just

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keep working and working and working
until I could master certain skills.

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And then when my teammates would come
to me for guidance about, Hey, Preston,

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what do you think we should do here?

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What do you think we should do there?

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Um, you know, I would look at my own
experiences on the field, I would look

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at the type of work that I've done
individually, and then I would kind of

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combine those together and come up with
some sort of a plan, like, Oh, hey, so,

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you know, since you're good at this,
maybe you should go, you know, on this

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left side and then watch this guy who's
coming down the right flank, because he

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tends to do this, or, or be careful of
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So, what I began to understand was, um,
being able to observe how others are, and

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then, and others, I mean, my teammates,
and then I mean, then also the, the

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opposition, and then myself, uh, and
then kind of put together a, I guess, a

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strategy or a plan for then how, how we
move forward on, on the soccer field.

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So, um, you know, that was just me
just doing it because, you know,

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Hey, you know, they're asking me
a question about how I can help.

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I'm like, okay, great.

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You know, this, this is how I can help.

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Okay.

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So you fast forward a little bit, you
fast forward, you know, throughout, you

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know, playing soccer and all that jazz.

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And then you get into, you know,
myself in the professional realm.

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You know, I'm getting into my first
real job as a service coordinator at the

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regional center of Orange County, which
is basically, I was a case manager, like,

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like a social worker, almost for, um,
Uh, uh, individual, individuals who had,

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uh, developmental, uh, uh, disabilities.

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Okay.

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So I, I would help manage their
case, making sure they got services.

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I would meet with their parents and we
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you know, the county and all that stuff.

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And we would try to make sure that,
that, that, that, that they were

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set up with the services and the
things that they, that they need.

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Um, so that was my first real job.

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And in that real, in that job, you
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the mindset of, Oh, you know, I mean,
this is, this is nice, you know, I'm,

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I'm finally getting some money, right.

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Cause I'm working 40 hours a
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I'm living with roommates,
you know, everything's great.

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It's fun.

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Um, but then, As I begin to understand
that, you know what, um, there's,

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there's a barrier for me to go further.

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And that barrier was that, you
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the experience because I was still
learning, but two, um, when I had gotten

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this job, I, I had a bachelor's and
having a bachelor's degree is great.

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I mean, I think probably most, I mean,
I think that's kind of like one of the.

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Fundamentals of when you're from
high school, and you do all the

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basic requisites, and then when you
get into the professional realm, you

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know, the bachelor's part, that really
sets you aside from others, because

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now you've gone that you get your

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bachelor's?

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Oh, uh, University of California, Irvine.

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UC Irvine.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Uh, which was a fantastic experience.

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Um, and, and also it, it, it helped
that I, I, I had my quote unquote

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tenacity on the soccer field helped
me to be able to, to go to UC Irvine

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cause I ended up playing, playing soccer
there for the first two, two years.

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Okay.

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And I would advise anyone.

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You know, if you have kids, and if your
kids, you know, are in sports, or have

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any type of skill, or, or if they play
music, or if there's anything, I would

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suggest that they really help them to be
successful in that skill, or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Or technique or whatever that they're
doing, because you never know how

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that can help them down the line,
not just with getting into getting

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into a particular school or it, but
it also give them certain skills,

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skill sets, how to work hard, how to
practice, how to have determination.

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Dedication, all that stuff
matters because then that stuff

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bolsters you in, in, in your life.

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You know, when you started having that
job, you know, you know, if you, if you

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were a band major and you're playing
the trumpet all the time and you're

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practicing, you know, you know, five
hours after you come home from school

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or whatever, when you get yourself
that job, you're going to know, Hey,

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look, you know, I know that if I
work hard, like I did hitting that.

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But five hours after work, I mean,
five hours after school, if I put that

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dedication into my job, you know, I
could be really, really successful there.

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So, um, the, the, the fact of you
putting in the extra work, that's

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what, Doing extra extracurricular
activities does for you.

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Got it, got it.

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So, so anyway, I, I digress.

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Um, that's okay.

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That's okay.

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No, that's good.

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I'm, I'm kind of taking, take, taking
us along a journey, so That's all right.

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We, we, we'll just follow
you, you right along.

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Keep going on the journey.

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I'll, I'll keep on going.

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Keep on

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going.

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It's your journey.

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It's all good.

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Um, uh, so, so yeah.

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So what I was talking about it.

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Yeah, the regional center, which
was a great experience, mind you,

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and I will put a plug out there.

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You know, people with
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we need to make sure that they have
the services that they need to live

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the lives that they want to live.

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Okay.

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We, we don't, we shouldn't.

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You know, think of them as different.

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We need to think of them as,
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aspirations and their own goals.

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And we need to understand what those
goals are and help them to achieve those.

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Yes.

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Just want to put that plug in there.

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Okay.

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I completely

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agree.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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Uh, so what I realized though, is
that, um, as a service coordinator,

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Um, uh, I was only going to go so
far with my career, so I decided

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to, to, to go to graduate school.

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So I ended up going to graduate school,
uh, getting, uh, uh, getting a dual, a

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dual master's, uh, master's in social
work and a master's in public health.

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Um, uh, and what that did was, with that
additional education, what that did was,

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um, was that Uh, I learned a certain
set of skills by doing both of those.

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What were those skills that you learned?

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Well, one, um, I learned, you
know, how to be responsible.

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. Okay, that's a good skill.

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Make a plain and simple.

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Um, I learned that, um, uh, when I'm
supposed to do something and when I have.

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A deadline to do it.

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Yes, I need to make sure that I get
that done, but even beyond that, I

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need to make sure I'm preparing for
that, you know, maybe a week to two

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weeks to three weeks ahead of the time.

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Uh, ahead of time.

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So

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you learn time management
learned plan among other things?

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Yes.

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Okay, got it.

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Time

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management and how to plan everything out.

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And I also learned that
when you do that, you know.

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One, it relieves stress because
you wait until you know, going on,

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it's, it's going to stress you out.

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And then, and then also once you do
produce what you're producing, it's

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not going to be that good either
because you're, you're already stressed

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out in a way and you don't have
enough time to really make it good.

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But if you plan it out, then say, if you
have something to do, like, like three

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weeks before something else is due.

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Have it basically done by the
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Fine tuning, making sure
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Even you can reach out to your
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Oh, Hey, I have this done already.

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Can you please look at this and tell
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You know, that, that type of stuff that
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for me in my professional life because,
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When I have something that's due, say, a
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it done, you know, two, like, two, three
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over to my supervisor for them to review,
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people, so by the time I get it actually
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covered all my bases and making sure that
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So that is, that's kind of that
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skill set that I learned.

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Um, but, um, but we're talking
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So, so let me get back into.

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So, I'm going to fast, fast, fast forward.

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We'll press the fast forward button.

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We'll zip through a couple of years.

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Uh, and we'll get to the point, um,
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a managed care company and managed
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um, basically an insurance company.

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Um, uh, and.

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I had the opportunity of moving
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It was my first management, real
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So, uh, I will tell you, um, I've
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someone who's worked under managers, of
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you know, it can't be that hard.

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You know, I mean, look, I'm
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All you do is just kind of
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a little bit here and there.

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You know, you kind of look, you
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turn in and then you turn that in.

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But, you know, it can't be that hard.

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You know, um, And of course you
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is, like, man, it was hard, man.

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It was real hard.

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And the part that's hard is
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Hardest part about management
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And it's not that, and it's not that, um,
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bad or what it is is you, you have a goal.

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And your job as a manager for the most
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else is kind of rowing in the same
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So your key thing is getting everyone
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And, but people are not, you know,
it's not, uh, uh, what's the word?

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Um, uh.

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Monolithic.

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It's not like everyone's not all the same.

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No, no one is, uh, homo homogeneous.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Right, right.

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I understand.

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Like everyone is different and
everyone has their own individual

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goals and everyone are, are working
there for a different reason.

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