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Feb. 4, 2024

Navigating the Path to Success: Tips for Youth and Parents

Navigating the Path to Success: Tips for Youth and Parents

In this engaging episode of the "Healthy, Wealthy and Wise" podcast, hosts Dr. William T Choctaw and Jesse Adams dive into a discussion filled with valuable insights and practical advice for both youth and parents on the journey to succes...

In this engaging episode of the "Healthy, Wealthy and Wise" podcast, hosts Dr. William T Choctaw and Jesse Adams dive into a discussion filled with valuable insights and practical advice for both youth and parents on the journey to success.

Brother Keith Hanson, their esteemed guest, shares his remarkable story and unique strategies for empowering young minds through education and leadership. The conversation centers on the pivotal role of discipline, determination, and dedication in achieving personal and academic excellence.

Brother Keith elaborates on his innovative "Summer Success Academy" program, designed to keep young learners engaged and growing during the summer break. He emphasizes the importance of early exposure to various career options and mentorship, shedding light on how these factors can shape a young person's future.

Furthermore, Dr. Choctaw and Jesse express their unwavering commitment to providing a platform that supports Brother Keith's noble endeavors. They discuss collaborative efforts to connect with and inspire more youth to embrace education, personal development, and leadership opportunities.

Join us for this episode as we navigate the path to success, offering valuable guidance and inspiration to both youth and parents in pursuit of their dreams.

Transcript
1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,740 Dr. William T Choctaw: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very, very 2 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,039 special guest brother Keith Hanson. 3 00:00:04,384 --> 00:00:07,794 Who we've known for a number of years, but who's been involved with some very 4 00:00:07,794 --> 00:00:14,204 unique activities, specifically involving education and involving our youth. 5 00:00:14,904 --> 00:00:18,834 And because we were so impressed with the work that he has done. 6 00:00:19,254 --> 00:00:23,314 We invited him to join us on Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 7 00:00:23,354 --> 00:00:27,884 podcast, and he graciously agreed for him to share some of that. 8 00:00:27,924 --> 00:00:31,264 This is about leadership, and this is, this podcast is part 9 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:32,934 of our Leadership Masterclass. 10 00:00:33,394 --> 00:00:39,144 And so our hope is that as you listen, to the work of Brother Hanson and other 11 00:00:39,144 --> 00:00:43,644 leaders that you too will be inspired to do something like what he's doing 12 00:00:44,004 --> 00:00:48,774 or just certainly assist him or help him in doing what he has been doing. 13 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:51,224 So, welcome again, Brother Hanson. 14 00:00:51,704 --> 00:00:52,024 Thank you. 15 00:00:52,024 --> 00:00:52,824 It's good to be here. 16 00:00:53,384 --> 00:00:56,954 Thank you., so what about the future now? 17 00:00:57,274 --> 00:01:04,034 You're actually here because you made a presentation at the Men's 18 00:01:04,094 --> 00:01:06,314 Fellowship Council that impressed me. 19 00:01:06,714 --> 00:01:09,094 And I said, wow, those are good ideas. 20 00:01:09,094 --> 00:01:12,349 You know, I need to talk with this guy and find out blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 21 00:01:12,499 --> 00:01:16,779 And so I guess my point is I think the challenge now is that those of us who 22 00:01:16,779 --> 00:01:23,189 are of like mind need to work together, whatever that means, to sort of help to 23 00:01:23,189 --> 00:01:27,619 solve the problem because no one person can do it by himself or by herself. 24 00:01:28,029 --> 00:01:31,444 One, one of the things, a, again, after that meeting the, the 25 00:01:31,444 --> 00:01:32,974 Chief Production Officer, Mr. 26 00:01:32,974 --> 00:01:37,984 Hammonds and I had a conversation, we, we, we had a conversation and 27 00:01:37,984 --> 00:01:46,304 we decided based on that meeting to start a pod, a youth podcasters club. 28 00:01:47,679 --> 00:01:51,809 That, you know, any youth, doesn't matter what church you go to, where you 29 00:01:51,809 --> 00:01:55,839 are, if you're interested in podcasting or learning about it or whatever, 30 00:01:55,839 --> 00:01:59,239 whatever, whatever, you know, contact, go to our website and we'll get you 31 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:01,109 information and start you on your way. 32 00:02:01,929 --> 00:02:02,029 That's great. 33 00:02:02,029 --> 00:02:03,419 Most of the stuff is free. 34 00:02:03,794 --> 00:02:07,244 You know, you know, like you can start a podcast for like six months 35 00:02:07,244 --> 00:02:09,454 for free, you know, on and on and on. 36 00:02:09,654 --> 00:02:11,334 But that's just a small part. 37 00:02:11,904 --> 00:02:15,834 The more important part in my judgment is the focus on education 38 00:02:15,834 --> 00:02:19,804 and, and, and the substantive things that, that can be done with that. 39 00:02:20,114 --> 00:02:23,924 So, you know, how, what, what else, what help do you need? 40 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:27,829 To help you move forward with some of the things that you're doing. 41 00:02:28,119 --> 00:02:30,789 And it's always, it's like the stock market, it's always up and 42 00:02:30,789 --> 00:02:32,639 down, you know, and that's okay. 43 00:02:33,249 --> 00:02:37,829 Keith Hansen: Well, I think getting the, getting the information out there I have 44 00:02:38,119 --> 00:02:41,699 some, and I'll share it, gladly share it with you guys so that you can pass it on, 45 00:02:41,709 --> 00:02:46,449 do with it as you wish to, to brighten and enlighten some of these people's lives. 46 00:02:46,769 --> 00:02:50,949 But again, to your point, some of the things that I learned 47 00:02:51,379 --> 00:02:52,879 to try to help our kids. 48 00:02:53,339 --> 00:02:54,549 And it can be done anywhere. 49 00:02:54,969 --> 00:02:58,539 When I found out some of our kids that things that they wanted to do, I tried 50 00:02:58,539 --> 00:03:02,019 to put them in contact with people that look like them, that do what they want to 51 00:03:02,079 --> 00:03:04,179 do so they can know that it's believable. 52 00:03:04,409 --> 00:03:05,899 There was some that wanted to be firemen. 53 00:03:05,909 --> 00:03:07,089 I put them in contact with Mr. 54 00:03:07,089 --> 00:03:08,699 Fonville and some of the others. 55 00:03:08,699 --> 00:03:12,433 One of my relatives, he was a fire captain for a Compton fire department. 56 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:13,659 Matter of fact, he worked with Mr. 57 00:03:13,659 --> 00:03:18,399 Fonville and when they saw somebody that they knew at church or whatever, 58 00:03:18,729 --> 00:03:20,949 it changed, it was very different. 59 00:03:21,264 --> 00:03:24,624 I used to take a matter of fact, one of the ones I did with Doris 60 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:29,914 Simpson's daughter and Patrick's son when they graduated college, which 61 00:03:29,914 --> 00:03:32,294 I had talked with them and stuff before, but when they graduated 62 00:03:32,294 --> 00:03:33,754 college, one had a poli sci degree. 63 00:03:33,754 --> 00:03:35,494 And the other, I believe hers is in marketing. 64 00:03:35,964 --> 00:03:37,574 I took them to my job with me. 65 00:03:37,664 --> 00:03:40,664 I work at Metro and they have. 66 00:03:41,489 --> 00:03:44,059 floors of people that do all sorts of things based on 67 00:03:44,059 --> 00:03:45,189 their degrees that they did. 68 00:03:45,189 --> 00:03:46,669 27 floors of people. 69 00:03:46,889 --> 00:03:50,309 So I took them there and I took them to the different departments where 70 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:53,409 they could utilize their degree and have them meet people, get business 71 00:03:53,419 --> 00:03:56,289 cards from them so they could talk to them and hear their story, what 72 00:03:56,289 --> 00:03:57,669 they did and how they got there. 73 00:03:57,999 --> 00:03:59,419 And those things make a difference. 74 00:03:59,529 --> 00:04:01,969 There was one of the little girls at church, she wanted to be a lawyer. 75 00:04:01,969 --> 00:04:05,809 So I took her there to see a lady named Nedra Jenkins one of the only African 76 00:04:05,809 --> 00:04:10,909 American female lawyers that Metro had of, I think they had about 15, 10, 15 lawyers. 77 00:04:11,329 --> 00:04:14,029 And I asked her before, why do you want to do that? 78 00:04:14,029 --> 00:04:16,849 And she gave me these reasons, which weren't good ones, but I had to 79 00:04:16,859 --> 00:04:19,129 take her to shore to meet this lady. 80 00:04:19,669 --> 00:04:20,649 And it made a difference. 81 00:04:20,659 --> 00:04:23,189 She was talking about, she's going to be in court and do this, that, 82 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:24,209 and the other, make all this money. 83 00:04:24,209 --> 00:04:27,689 But before you get there, I asked her, do you, how are your 84 00:04:27,689 --> 00:04:28,829 reading and writing skills? 85 00:04:28,869 --> 00:04:29,859 I don't like to write. 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,009 I read when I have to so she goes in this lady's office and she's got 87 00:04:34,009 --> 00:04:38,829 stacks of books up and she's writing she's typing and she's like, wow, when 88 00:04:38,829 --> 00:04:41,979 she started explained to her before you go on stage at court you have a 89 00:04:41,979 --> 00:04:45,694 lot of this background stuff that has to be done before you get the bright 90 00:04:45,694 --> 00:04:47,264 lights and glamour of going to court. 91 00:04:47,264 --> 00:04:49,374 And she was devastated. 92 00:04:49,374 --> 00:04:51,244 And then she realized this isn't for me then. 93 00:04:51,704 --> 00:04:55,834 And so kind of like I tell some of our kids now when they're not sure exactly 94 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:59,504 what they want to do, I encourage them to go take the ASVAB test, the arm surface 95 00:04:59,524 --> 00:05:03,754 vocational aptitude battery test for the military, not to go into the military. 96 00:05:04,029 --> 00:05:08,619 But if you know, the three of us here, anybody that went in the military, usually 97 00:05:08,619 --> 00:05:10,849 they get a job that they saw and do well. 98 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:12,069 It's not magic. 99 00:05:12,069 --> 00:05:15,869 How it happens is because of the tests that they take shows their strengths and 100 00:05:15,869 --> 00:05:20,729 their weaknesses, and they guide them into careers and jobs where they're strong at. 101 00:05:20,729 --> 00:05:23,719 If they see that they suck at something, they're not going to push them into 102 00:05:23,719 --> 00:05:25,659 that and let them struggle and founder. 103 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:30,279 And so the same thing, once they take that test and learn that I'm good at English, 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,889 or I'm good at math, or I'm good at. 105 00:05:32,159 --> 00:05:33,419 Mechanics or whatever. 106 00:05:33,629 --> 00:05:37,249 Let's embrace the careers that utilize those skills that are easy for you 107 00:05:37,249 --> 00:05:40,679 to do and you take it and use it to get something that is scalable, 108 00:05:40,679 --> 00:05:45,179 sustainable and marketable and set yourself up and you'll be fine. 109 00:05:45,299 --> 00:05:49,659 So yeah, there's, there's a lot of things we can do again 110 00:05:49,669 --> 00:05:51,039 by sharing the information. 111 00:05:51,379 --> 00:05:53,559 I tell the kids again. 112 00:05:54,474 --> 00:05:58,854 A lot of them talk about money and finance for college and worry about that. 113 00:05:58,854 --> 00:06:04,374 Like you said, and I said, if you, well, a couple of things I usually 114 00:06:04,394 --> 00:06:08,164 do this presentation and it talks about the three D's of success. 115 00:06:08,674 --> 00:06:12,194 And I draw this triangle and I tell them about how a triangle is the 116 00:06:12,194 --> 00:06:14,254 strongest geometrical shape known to man. 117 00:06:14,254 --> 00:06:16,734 It can build and do wonderful things. 118 00:06:17,014 --> 00:06:20,224 I says, and on one side of this triangle, you have. 119 00:06:20,824 --> 00:06:25,664 Dedication and the other side, you have determination, but 120 00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:29,014 the base of the triangle that makes it strong is discipline. 121 00:06:29,474 --> 00:06:33,384 And without discipline, you will not be successful in life at all. 122 00:06:33,704 --> 00:06:36,304 It takes discipline to do anything. 123 00:06:36,304 --> 00:06:38,834 And especially matriculate through a college campus. 124 00:06:39,144 --> 00:06:40,434 You have to be disciplined. 125 00:06:40,444 --> 00:06:41,554 You have to be focused. 126 00:06:41,614 --> 00:06:43,864 You have to be deliberate and you have to be intentional. 127 00:06:44,054 --> 00:06:46,274 And you can do that now as high school students. 128 00:06:46,644 --> 00:06:50,534 Take ownership of your education and drive it where it needs to go. 129 00:06:51,054 --> 00:06:51,304 So 130 00:06:51,594 --> 00:06:54,604 Dr. William T Choctaw: I think one of the things that we can do and 131 00:06:54,834 --> 00:06:58,764 again, you know we'll get approved from the chief production officer. 132 00:06:59,924 --> 00:07:04,604 I think there's a lot of, I think we can provide a platform. 133 00:07:05,704 --> 00:07:12,164 For you to communicate and in our podcast, we're approaching 20, 000 downloads 134 00:07:12,624 --> 00:07:15,104 and this is why this is not just U. 135 00:07:15,104 --> 00:07:15,414 S. 136 00:07:15,414 --> 00:07:19,034 or California, but at the very least. 137 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:24,209 We can get the word out and it could be certain type of people who are 138 00:07:24,209 --> 00:07:28,989 getting the word out to certain type of people and everybody else, but at 139 00:07:28,989 --> 00:07:34,139 least that can be done, you know, and, and, and I think just, just in the last, 140 00:07:34,159 --> 00:07:38,169 just this month in terms of knowing what you're doing and you're knowing 141 00:07:38,169 --> 00:07:41,799 some of the things that we're doing and sort of merging some of that so 142 00:07:41,799 --> 00:07:43,049 that we can all help each other with. 143 00:07:43,389 --> 00:07:44,679 To focus on the youth. 144 00:07:44,679 --> 00:07:49,034 I, I just think that, you know, you, you can't a group a race, a, 145 00:07:49,634 --> 00:07:53,979 a, a team, a culture cannot survive if you don't focus on your youth. 146 00:07:54,254 --> 00:07:54,789 You, you, 147 00:07:54,999 --> 00:07:55,569 Keith Hansen: well, here's the thing. 148 00:07:55,569 --> 00:08:01,039 If you, if you look at others that are thriving and surviving and excelling, 149 00:08:01,589 --> 00:08:06,149 they're doing something that we don't do is networking help each other. 150 00:08:06,389 --> 00:08:06,539 Yep. 151 00:08:06,609 --> 00:08:08,694 Right now at the Cal Poly campus, during the summer. 152 00:08:09,274 --> 00:08:12,364 There's so many programs they have on there for Latino youth 153 00:08:12,364 --> 00:08:13,434 and this, that, and the other. 154 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:15,714 And I was there. 155 00:08:15,784 --> 00:08:20,664 And it's like, wow, all these kids are putting in extra work, doing extra stuff. 156 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:22,564 But where are our kids? 157 00:08:22,784 --> 00:08:23,204 You know, 158 00:08:23,374 --> 00:08:28,134 Dr. William T Choctaw: I benefited in the seventies, you know, in the seventies 159 00:08:28,134 --> 00:08:32,784 from going to summer programs in Nashville at my high school, Tennessee State 160 00:08:32,784 --> 00:08:35,904 University had a summer science program. 161 00:08:35,904 --> 00:08:37,444 It's like about three or four weeks. 162 00:08:37,854 --> 00:08:41,814 I went there my first time ever being on a college campus, and 163 00:08:41,814 --> 00:08:43,884 I said, wow, I really like this. 164 00:08:44,154 --> 00:08:47,374 But that then caused me to get interested in biochemistry, 165 00:08:47,744 --> 00:08:49,644 which was my major at college. 166 00:08:49,844 --> 00:08:54,994 I told my kids growing up summer is not relaxation time. 167 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:57,724 Summer is time you use to get ahead. 168 00:08:58,104 --> 00:09:00,324 You know, you make up stuff. 169 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:03,544 Keith Hansen: That needs to be preached. 170 00:09:03,624 --> 00:09:03,974 That needs to be. 171 00:09:03,974 --> 00:09:04,384 Yes. 172 00:09:04,385 --> 00:09:04,694 Yes. 173 00:09:04,694 --> 00:09:06,429 I learned that. 174 00:09:06,439 --> 00:09:09,539 A lot of our kids is laying up and being cute during the summer 175 00:09:09,539 --> 00:09:10,689 instead of putting in work. 176 00:09:10,809 --> 00:09:11,839 Well, I think it's, it's 177 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:14,419 Dr. William T Choctaw: sort of what we taught them and, and it's sort of what 178 00:09:14,419 --> 00:09:18,639 they're told that's expected of them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 179 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,309 Well, I, I think moving forward and I, I want to be respectful 180 00:09:22,309 --> 00:09:22,989 Keith Hansen: of your time. 181 00:09:23,339 --> 00:09:24,439 No, no, I'm fine. 182 00:09:26,139 --> 00:09:28,829 You said something there about this and here's one of the 183 00:09:28,839 --> 00:09:30,579 things again I did with my kids. 184 00:09:30,629 --> 00:09:34,599 And at first I caught backlash from them, but then it became a way of life. 185 00:09:34,709 --> 00:09:35,449 Couple of things. 186 00:09:36,674 --> 00:09:40,094 Our, most of our stuff that we did was at church, near the 187 00:09:40,094 --> 00:09:41,024 church, this, that, and the other. 188 00:09:41,034 --> 00:09:43,484 And it's at least 30 minutes away from my house. 189 00:09:44,114 --> 00:09:47,744 So I would tell the kids wherever we go, whenever we go different places 190 00:09:47,744 --> 00:09:51,164 that we go, cause we were very, very involved with their sports and 191 00:09:51,164 --> 00:09:54,654 this, that, and the other, as well as church choir mission programs. 192 00:09:54,974 --> 00:09:56,394 So we were always on the road. 193 00:09:56,394 --> 00:09:58,224 I'd get off the train and my wife, sometimes would 194 00:09:58,224 --> 00:09:59,084 give me one or two of them. 195 00:09:59,084 --> 00:10:01,824 I'm taking some, some, she's taking some another place, but 196 00:10:01,824 --> 00:10:03,064 I'd tell them wherever we go. 197 00:10:03,464 --> 00:10:07,114 If it's longer than 15 or 20 minutes in the car, you got to bring a book to read. 198 00:10:07,434 --> 00:10:10,044 She started them on reading books each week. 199 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:11,774 They had to spend an hour and a night reading. 200 00:10:11,774 --> 00:10:15,004 And every Friday they would go to the library and she would get a new batch 201 00:10:15,004 --> 00:10:16,344 of books for him for the next week. 202 00:10:16,694 --> 00:10:20,744 So some of these things that you, you have to do, but during the summer I started a 203 00:10:20,744 --> 00:10:24,414 thing and I started telling some of my, and it takes the work of the parents. 204 00:10:24,414 --> 00:10:26,264 And if they're not willing to do it, it won't work. 205 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:27,874 But I had a thing for my kids. 206 00:10:27,874 --> 00:10:29,774 I called it the summer success Academy. 207 00:10:30,774 --> 00:10:36,469 During the summer, I would have, get their next year's You can go to the library and 208 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,539 they have an accelerated reading list for the next grade that they're going to so 209 00:10:40,539 --> 00:10:43,529 you can get some of those books and get them early and get them exposed to it. 210 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:46,969 You can have them write book reports, you know, I used to have the youngest 211 00:10:46,969 --> 00:10:50,209 one she did a little basic one, the middle one she did a little bit more. 212 00:10:50,509 --> 00:10:54,139 And my son, he had a complex one that he had to do, have them during this, 213 00:10:54,139 --> 00:10:56,959 during the summer, pick some of the books that you find out that they're 214 00:10:56,999 --> 00:10:58,559 interested in certain things to do that. 215 00:10:58,789 --> 00:11:00,209 I would get the next year's math. 216 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:02,749 And right now there's like one I don't know if you heard of, 217 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:06,469 call it Khan Academy and others that you can go to Khan Academy. 218 00:11:06,469 --> 00:11:06,919 Yeah. 219 00:11:07,339 --> 00:11:11,694 Their next year, their next year's math. 220 00:11:12,164 --> 00:11:16,924 And and have them get exposed to it and start to learn it before time. 221 00:11:17,204 --> 00:11:18,634 You can work with them with writing. 222 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:20,894 I would give them writing assignments and things like this. 223 00:11:21,204 --> 00:11:23,924 Sometimes they would want to do stuff for the summer, go somewhere and I'd say, 224 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:28,574 write me a paper and persuade me, write a persuasive essay that why we need to 225 00:11:28,574 --> 00:11:33,104 do this or why I should, you know, and they would say, Oh, dad, but they did it. 226 00:11:33,134 --> 00:11:37,214 And starting off with my son and then with Jasmine and with Jada, they're phenomenal 227 00:11:37,214 --> 00:11:39,834 writers as a result of it, as it gets. 228 00:11:40,294 --> 00:11:42,654 Further down the road because it started doing it more and more and 229 00:11:42,654 --> 00:11:47,544 it became that's the way we roll, you know We I'll say this real quick. 230 00:11:47,884 --> 00:11:49,854 We went one time to a family reunion. 231 00:11:49,884 --> 00:11:53,544 We did a red eye flight to Chicago We went to the reunion But the next week 232 00:11:53,864 --> 00:11:58,334 we went to Pittsburgh and we drove from Chicago to Pittsburgh is over eight 233 00:11:58,334 --> 00:12:01,914 hours one way Right, and everybody said how did you stay in those in the 234 00:12:01,924 --> 00:12:03,684 car with those kids for eight hours? 235 00:12:04,059 --> 00:12:07,459 We took books and this and that and we had videos and stuff like 236 00:12:07,459 --> 00:12:08,719 this, but we never turned them on. 237 00:12:08,969 --> 00:12:10,039 We played games with them. 238 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:11,439 We taught them different languages. 239 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:12,059 We taught them. 240 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:15,149 I had a math game that I play with them in the car, a spelling game. 241 00:12:15,149 --> 00:12:17,619 I play with them in the car on and on and on. 242 00:12:17,959 --> 00:12:21,079 And those things doing that stuff. 243 00:12:22,034 --> 00:12:22,584 It works. 244 00:12:22,594 --> 00:12:25,194 It takes a lot of work and stuff, but it works. 245 00:12:25,524 --> 00:12:29,414 So it takes a lot of extra stuff you have to do to turn out some 246 00:12:29,994 --> 00:12:32,584 products that are able to do that. 247 00:12:33,684 --> 00:12:34,124 Well, but 248 00:12:34,144 --> 00:12:36,844 Dr. William T Choctaw: what we can do, we can help you. 249 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:41,694 We can provide a platform and it could be multiple things. 250 00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:46,159 I, you know, I'll leave it up to you and Jesse in terms of Which categories and all 251 00:12:46,169 --> 00:12:50,869 that, but, but we can provide a platform that folks can access, I'm talking about 252 00:12:50,909 --> 00:12:56,629 kids specifically, can access to get information or refer them to, number one. 253 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:02,404 Number two, that there's a gentleman by the name of Chavarria, As I mentioned, 254 00:13:02,414 --> 00:13:07,494 is he's a, a college math mentor, and I'd never heard of college math mentors, 255 00:13:07,774 --> 00:13:13,294 but his job is that he contacts college students either right before they go to 256 00:13:13,294 --> 00:13:15,644 college or during college and helps them. 257 00:13:15,864 --> 00:13:20,304 It advises them with difficult situations, you know, difficulties. 258 00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:23,994 I never heard of that, but I will put you in touch with him give 259 00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:25,654 you his information, vice versa. 260 00:13:25,854 --> 00:13:30,624 And so you guys can talk and maybe you guys can do something to help each other. 261 00:13:30,884 --> 00:13:33,284 You know, he's a graduate of Walnut high school. 262 00:13:33,654 --> 00:13:37,584 I met him back when I was mayor and he remembered me. 263 00:13:37,844 --> 00:13:42,344 And we just started talking and, and then I, you know, I'm having him do 264 00:13:42,344 --> 00:13:46,904 some podcasts with us, but, but he's, he's working in the same area that 265 00:13:46,904 --> 00:13:48,744 can help, they can help with that. 266 00:13:49,034 --> 00:13:54,494 But, but specifically we can focus on the kids that we see the most, 267 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:59,434 which to some extent, kids at church, other places and provide these things 268 00:13:59,434 --> 00:14:00,004 Keith Hansen: for them. 269 00:14:00,484 --> 00:14:02,274 I think you're, you're exactly right. 270 00:14:02,314 --> 00:14:02,714 I have. 271 00:14:04,214 --> 00:14:08,354 Some of our kids at church I tried to hold on one second here. 272 00:14:09,244 --> 00:14:11,064 Let me tell my wife, we're still doing this one. 273 00:14:11,914 --> 00:14:12,224 Okay. 274 00:14:12,224 --> 00:14:12,764 Tell her we're 275 00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:13,404 Dr. William T Choctaw: almost done. 276 00:14:22,734 --> 00:14:23,144 Keith Hansen: Okay. 277 00:14:23,144 --> 00:14:24,054 She said, Oh, wow. 278 00:14:24,054 --> 00:14:24,624 I forgot. 279 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:28,924 Anyway I've acquired different people that can help kids. 280 00:14:28,934 --> 00:14:31,634 Like I tell some of our kids I was telling some of the other week, if you 281 00:14:31,634 --> 00:14:36,059 have any needs Academically get help as soon as you realize there's a problem. 282 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:37,589 Don't wait till it's too late. 283 00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:41,859 One of the boys he was telling me he had problems with his spanish and one of my 284 00:14:41,859 --> 00:14:46,794 nieces that was here She's learned spanish And she said, I'll help you with it. 285 00:14:46,794 --> 00:14:49,434 So she gave him her phone number and I says, you work with him. 286 00:14:49,434 --> 00:14:54,804 And then my daughter Jada speaks fluent Spanish and writes fluent Spanish. 287 00:14:55,214 --> 00:14:57,184 And so she said she would help him. 288 00:14:57,434 --> 00:15:00,664 So when we find resources, I try to put the kids connected with them. 289 00:15:00,924 --> 00:15:03,224 I have a couple of math teachers that help my son. 290 00:15:03,854 --> 00:15:07,324 One of my friend's daughter and she's got a master's degree in math and she 291 00:15:07,364 --> 00:15:11,044 has helped in matter of fact, some of the kids that I mentioned earlier, she's 292 00:15:11,054 --> 00:15:14,844 working with them now teaching them and then another lady Jasmine wall. 293 00:15:14,844 --> 00:15:16,254 She's a mechanical engineer. 294 00:15:16,584 --> 00:15:17,924 She has a math club. 295 00:15:17,924 --> 00:15:18,474 She has. 296 00:15:19,144 --> 00:15:22,844 Okay, she has a business where she does this tutoring and helping kids. 297 00:15:23,134 --> 00:15:27,704 She has a Friday night math party on a website for the kids and she 298 00:15:27,704 --> 00:15:31,664 makes it fun and exciting, but she does tutoring individual all these 299 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:32,764 things when we have them together. 300 00:15:32,764 --> 00:15:33,984 I'm going to I'll share with you. 301 00:15:33,984 --> 00:15:35,884 I'll share with you about the different scholarships. 302 00:15:35,914 --> 00:15:36,324 Okay. 303 00:15:36,424 --> 00:15:36,914 Okay. 304 00:15:37,214 --> 00:15:39,624 Dr. William T Choctaw: And so we can put all that on the website. 305 00:15:39,924 --> 00:15:43,884 And so there's a place that they can go to just get information, 306 00:15:43,894 --> 00:15:48,174 you know, because this is the age of technology and AI and all that. 307 00:15:48,394 --> 00:15:50,344 And we can do that. 308 00:15:50,374 --> 00:15:50,724 We can 309 00:15:50,724 --> 00:15:50,874 Keith Hansen: do that. 310 00:15:50,874 --> 00:15:51,784 Yes. 311 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:52,864 So there's a lot of resources. 312 00:15:54,019 --> 00:15:58,269 I had told you one of the things and I'm going to try to do it with my SQL, 313 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:01,999 a database that I wanted to make, and I haven't got to, I just got some stuff 314 00:16:01,999 --> 00:16:05,929 for how to make it work the other day, and I've got to make it happen, but I 315 00:16:05,929 --> 00:16:08,399 need to create a database of careers. 316 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:12,109 Our kids, even in our church alone, there's so many people that have 317 00:16:12,109 --> 00:16:15,769 careers that they never even knew of, thought about, they need to know. 318 00:16:15,769 --> 00:16:17,029 They need to know. 319 00:16:17,319 --> 00:16:19,599 Dr. William T Choctaw: You know, the attorneys that I know at St. 320 00:16:19,599 --> 00:16:23,909 Stephen's who've been there for years who, who worked with me and vice versa. 321 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:28,979 And right, we, we have assets that we don't know about constantly. 322 00:16:28,979 --> 00:16:30,469 We don't utilize those assets. 323 00:16:30,739 --> 00:16:33,819 And, and so I, we, we can, we can help with that. 324 00:16:33,869 --> 00:16:34,949 We, we can help with that. 325 00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:35,419 I think 326 00:16:35,419 --> 00:16:38,419 Keith Hansen: it's, I think it's a great thing again, like you said, and we said, 327 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:42,439 when you see people doing things that you think of and you say, well, I don't 328 00:16:42,439 --> 00:16:44,119 know if that's available or whatever. 329 00:16:44,419 --> 00:16:49,999 My kids we were there at in a community hospital and we were walking down 330 00:16:49,999 --> 00:16:53,209 the hall and they recognized your picture on the wall and they flipped 331 00:16:53,209 --> 00:16:55,809 out and they were like, Oh, that's Dr. 332 00:16:55,839 --> 00:16:56,069 Choctaw. 333 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:58,159 And again. 334 00:16:58,629 --> 00:17:01,089 Seeing what it was there for and this, that, and the other, once 335 00:17:01,089 --> 00:17:04,409 you explain to them, they're like, this is a believable thing. 336 00:17:04,769 --> 00:17:08,109 I was at Queen of the Valley, your old stomping grounds there. 337 00:17:08,439 --> 00:17:09,709 And I don't know if you know, Dr. 338 00:17:09,709 --> 00:17:10,389 Hatchinova. 339 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,799 I was with him because my father in law. 340 00:17:13,149 --> 00:17:14,279 had an issue. 341 00:17:14,529 --> 00:17:17,749 He went to the hospital and I've gotten because of so many 342 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,149 things, real into medical stuff. 343 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:21,989 He was sitting there for another purpose and I'm watching his 344 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:23,459 EKG and he's going bradycardic. 345 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:28,629 His heart's going real slow and then it speeds up and he was saying he felt fine. 346 00:17:28,994 --> 00:17:29,804 So then when Dr. 347 00:17:29,804 --> 00:17:33,604 Hatchinova found out, he's like, Oh, no, we've got to get a pacemaker in there. 348 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:37,784 When they went to do that, the kids from Medtronics, these two young kids 349 00:17:37,794 --> 00:17:39,884 that brought all this equipment in there and they were getting ready to 350 00:17:39,894 --> 00:17:41,384 go in there and put this pacemaker in. 351 00:17:41,674 --> 00:17:45,014 So I got their business cards and I was saying, these are the kind of things 352 00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:49,254 our kids need to learn about these kind of jobs and get into these careers. 353 00:17:49,304 --> 00:17:50,864 One of my daughter's friends, she. 354 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:55,384 Was a biology major, I believe, at UC Irvine, and I just turned her on to 355 00:17:55,394 --> 00:17:59,414 meeting those people and exposing her to that so she can dive into those kind of 356 00:17:59,414 --> 00:18:03,984 career fields that again, our kids don't know anything about stuff like that. 357 00:18:04,014 --> 00:18:05,824 I used to do biomed and love it. 358 00:18:06,054 --> 00:18:10,784 So that's why when I saw that, I said, wow, this is something you know, I worked 359 00:18:10,784 --> 00:18:12,464 with surgical equipment and this and that. 360 00:18:12,464 --> 00:18:15,924 And again, a lot of all these things that I learned were from 361 00:18:15,924 --> 00:18:17,104 what I learned in the Air Force. 362 00:18:17,144 --> 00:18:17,894 I'll say this real quick. 363 00:18:18,084 --> 00:18:18,884 It would be done in 364 00:18:18,884 --> 00:18:19,594 Dr. William T Choctaw: surgery. 365 00:18:19,644 --> 00:18:23,704 I, you know, our surgical assistants, the scrub techs were, were military. 366 00:18:23,804 --> 00:18:25,754 They served in the 70s and the 80s. 367 00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:27,044 They were all military. 368 00:18:27,334 --> 00:18:28,044 Keith Hansen: Wow. 369 00:18:28,094 --> 00:18:28,334 Yeah. 370 00:18:28,334 --> 00:18:29,034 That is amazing. 371 00:18:29,454 --> 00:18:29,864 Oh, absolutely. 372 00:18:30,774 --> 00:18:33,464 The job that I got when I, real quick, and it'll be done. 373 00:18:33,844 --> 00:18:37,974 From the biomedical stuff that I learned about or that I did when I got out of 374 00:18:37,974 --> 00:18:41,564 the Air Force I studied electronics, avionics and stuff in the Air Force, 375 00:18:41,564 --> 00:18:42,914 and it was like going to college. 376 00:18:42,954 --> 00:18:45,824 The stuff that I learned was equal to like a two year degree. 377 00:18:46,314 --> 00:18:51,359 So then, when I got out of the Air Force, I went to DeVry and to Zeus Pacific and 378 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,744 kept going with computers and electronics, but I had an opportunity to work. 379 00:18:56,074 --> 00:19:00,254 With a guy who had a medical contract for Queen of the Valley Foothill 380 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,164 Press and Intercommunity doing Biomed. 381 00:19:02,844 --> 00:19:06,874 I my son Joshua was a premature baby and I saw him in the NICU 382 00:19:07,274 --> 00:19:09,714 with all this equipment hooked up and I said, that is phenomenal. 383 00:19:09,714 --> 00:19:10,874 I would love to work on that. 384 00:19:10,874 --> 00:19:14,254 One of the nurses took and introduced me to the people who did it. 385 00:19:15,714 --> 00:19:16,674 Talking to that guy. 386 00:19:16,684 --> 00:19:19,794 This is how God, God hears it and makes it happen. 387 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:23,134 He introduced, she introduced me to that guy and I started talking with him. 388 00:19:23,134 --> 00:19:24,424 He said, we need some help right now. 389 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:24,984 I said, really? 390 00:19:25,229 --> 00:19:27,509 He said, here's the owner's name, Vince De Palma. 391 00:19:27,509 --> 00:19:28,079 Call him. 392 00:19:28,389 --> 00:19:31,439 I called him, never met him on the phone, send him a resume showing 393 00:19:31,439 --> 00:19:32,709 what I did in the Air Force. 394 00:19:32,899 --> 00:19:37,069 This guy hired me over the phone, never saw him, hired me over the phone. 395 00:19:37,069 --> 00:19:39,349 And I started going to Queen of the Valley, Footeo Press and Intercommunity. 396 00:19:40,339 --> 00:19:43,419 And from what they taught me, I dived in there, grabbed the books 397 00:19:43,419 --> 00:19:47,119 and stuff, ordering parts and start working on that stuff from surgical 398 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,839 equipment to ICU stuff, to ventilators. 399 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:54,024 Was doing it but it was all from what I learned in the military that equipped me 400 00:19:54,024 --> 00:19:58,304 that I was able to dive in there Hit the ground and I know one place at fudeo press 401 00:19:58,304 --> 00:20:01,994 I caught some opposition because there was nobody there that looked like me Right 402 00:20:01,994 --> 00:20:03,324 and some of the guys in the engineering 403 00:20:04,214 --> 00:20:05,874 Dr. William T Choctaw: More conservative of the three that 404 00:20:05,874 --> 00:20:07,114 you mentioned of the three. 405 00:20:07,124 --> 00:20:07,744 Oh man. 406 00:20:08,124 --> 00:20:08,324 It was the 407 00:20:08,324 --> 00:20:09,284 Keith Hansen: most conservative. 408 00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:10,944 Yeah Interesting. 409 00:20:10,974 --> 00:20:12,244 I don't know if you know dr. 410 00:20:12,244 --> 00:20:15,314 Bracey Yes, I do. 411 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:18,204 I got to know her well from going in and out of surgery and working on 412 00:20:18,204 --> 00:20:21,024 the equipment and her and I were the only two that look like us there. 413 00:20:21,204 --> 00:20:23,574 Yeah, the doctors and people. 414 00:20:23,884 --> 00:20:24,874 It was very interesting. 415 00:20:24,874 --> 00:20:27,184 Some of the things that happened as a result of it. 416 00:20:27,284 --> 00:20:32,204 You know, but it was a blessing to be in that realm and help people 417 00:20:32,214 --> 00:20:35,354 help patients, some of the labor and delivery equipment I work with. 418 00:20:35,354 --> 00:20:39,874 I got to minister to the people as well as work on the equipment is very rewarding. 419 00:20:40,154 --> 00:20:44,714 So I say that to say that sometimes stuff that you learn can propel you into areas 420 00:20:44,724 --> 00:20:46,589 that you never thought in your life. 421 00:20:47,019 --> 00:20:48,969 I always tell the kids, if you stay ready, you don't have to 422 00:20:48,969 --> 00:20:50,274 get ready, so, right, right. 423 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:50,999 If you do good 424 00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,664 Dr. William T Choctaw: preparation, but one of that I have learned in 425 00:20:52,664 --> 00:20:57,064 the last 10, 15 years that I never appreciated before was networking. 426 00:20:57,674 --> 00:20:58,154 Yes. 427 00:20:58,634 --> 00:21:00,134 Well, I used to minimize ice. 428 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,544 I, no, I don't do that stuff. 429 00:21:01,544 --> 00:21:02,324 Whatever, whatever. 430 00:21:02,534 --> 00:21:08,694 But the reality is it's an efficiency mass method that allows you to get more done. 431 00:21:08,899 --> 00:21:11,479 As a team, then you can't buy yourself. 432 00:21:11,529 --> 00:21:16,199 I like to always say you can be very, very good as as as an individual, 433 00:21:16,539 --> 00:21:20,539 but you can't be excellent as an excellent comes from the team. 434 00:21:20,999 --> 00:21:24,389 And so what I've learned is to embrace teamwork. 435 00:21:25,254 --> 00:21:27,564 As a net on a networking platform. 436 00:21:27,794 --> 00:21:31,424 And so the work that you're doing and that sort of thing and people like 437 00:21:31,424 --> 00:21:36,444 you're doing that we can connect with you, you know, give you a platform 438 00:21:36,774 --> 00:21:40,724 to communicate whatever you want to communicate and still achieve the 439 00:21:40,724 --> 00:21:42,154 same goals because we all want the 440 00:21:42,484 --> 00:21:43,104 Keith Hansen: same thing. 441 00:21:43,704 --> 00:21:47,854 I think when you said about networking, networking again, like you said, 442 00:21:47,854 --> 00:21:51,744 I heard of it and thought of it before, but never learned until the 443 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:53,494 last few years, the power of it. 444 00:21:53,969 --> 00:21:55,459 Networking and delegating. 445 00:21:55,639 --> 00:21:59,209 Sometimes when you have certain things to do, when we did the church anniversary 446 00:21:59,219 --> 00:22:03,799 years ago, we were asked to help do it, my wife and I, and my wife was first and 447 00:22:03,809 --> 00:22:05,269 she was overwhelmed with all this stuff. 448 00:22:05,269 --> 00:22:08,669 And I had learned from a lady from second Baptist Renee Willis, because 449 00:22:08,669 --> 00:22:11,659 we worked with the African American employees association at work. 450 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:15,059 And we did all these events, but she learned to delegate and give stuff 451 00:22:15,059 --> 00:22:16,449 to the right people and get it done. 452 00:22:16,449 --> 00:22:19,139 That made everything work together and lighten the load off of her. 453 00:22:19,929 --> 00:22:21,229 Recently, I just learned. 454 00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:25,959 In the situation where my son has stage three esophagus cancer by networking with 455 00:22:25,979 --> 00:22:28,109 people, we got access to so many things. 456 00:22:28,109 --> 00:22:32,319 One in particular, I happen to network with Sister Nickens, 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,519 who works at City of Hope. 458 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:38,459 And by networking with her, opened my son up to a contact and connection 459 00:22:38,459 --> 00:22:42,269 of treatments and help and this and therapy, it has been phenomenal. 460 00:22:42,389 --> 00:22:46,449 So the power of networking sometimes can put you in touch with things that. 461 00:22:46,729 --> 00:22:49,109 Make stuff happen that you could have never done on your own. 462 00:22:49,109 --> 00:22:51,109 And that's what happened in that case. 463 00:22:51,539 --> 00:22:53,279 There's power and networking is phenomenal. 464 00:22:53,869 --> 00:22:54,729 Dr. William T Choctaw: Absolutely. 465 00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:59,679 Well, you know, Keith, we are, we are absolutely delighted again with you 466 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:01,839 sharing your very precious time with us. 467 00:23:02,199 --> 00:23:05,749 And certainly, you know, in terms of some of the things we talked about 468 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:08,644 moving forward, because I really, really, really, really, really appreciate it. 469 00:23:08,934 --> 00:23:12,564 Want to set something up that we can help the youth and get going, 470 00:23:12,754 --> 00:23:17,074 you know, don't be perfect You know, we'll modify we'll learn from it. 471 00:23:17,414 --> 00:23:18,814 You know, we'll grow with it. 472 00:23:18,824 --> 00:23:22,904 You know, it's a growth process You know when when Jess and I first 473 00:23:22,904 --> 00:23:26,374 started the podcast a little over a year ago It took us three or four 474 00:23:26,414 --> 00:23:28,574 months to just get some basics, right? 475 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:33,134 So I you know, we end that's part of the process but having said that we're still 476 00:23:33,134 --> 00:23:38,164 here I mean, the podcast is still here, and we can do things to help individuals 477 00:23:38,254 --> 00:23:45,284 like yourself by providing platforms, and it can be more than more than one area. 478 00:23:45,294 --> 00:23:48,554 I, you know, you mentioned a number of different things, and you know, Jessica 479 00:23:48,564 --> 00:23:53,574 can sort of help to decipher that and see what we can do and all that sort of stuff, 480 00:23:53,964 --> 00:23:56,884 Keith Hansen: but again, anything I can, anything I can do to help you. 481 00:23:56,894 --> 00:23:59,334 I'll be glad to anything I can share with you. 482 00:23:59,914 --> 00:24:01,364 I'm very transparent with it. 483 00:24:01,364 --> 00:24:01,704 I don't. 484 00:24:02,574 --> 00:24:05,134 If you can use it or give it to somebody that can use it. 485 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:05,934 I'm fine with it. 486 00:24:05,934 --> 00:24:08,104 I don't care if you can use it to get rich. 487 00:24:08,174 --> 00:24:10,833 I don't care what God is good. 488 00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:11,812 We're already 489 00:24:11,812 --> 00:24:12,301 Dr. William T Choctaw: rich. 490 00:24:12,301 --> 00:24:14,748 It's a good word about 491 00:24:14,748 --> 00:24:15,237 Keith Hansen: that. 492 00:24:15,237 --> 00:24:16,706 This is true. 493 00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:22,745 I, I, I, 1 of the things I really push and tell our kids that 1st and foremost. 494 00:24:23,165 --> 00:24:26,065 Make yourself available to go to college. 495 00:24:26,175 --> 00:24:30,175 And if you choose to, we had some that chose to try to do that. 496 00:24:30,175 --> 00:24:33,355 And it was after December and he hadn't done this stuff before. 497 00:24:34,105 --> 00:24:37,155 And so therefore I said, you force yourself and pigeonhole yourself 498 00:24:37,155 --> 00:24:38,405 into a different situation. 499 00:24:38,775 --> 00:24:43,945 I hadn't taken SATs, ACTs and changed from wanting to go to the military to 500 00:24:43,945 --> 00:24:45,325 go to school, and it was in December. 501 00:24:45,635 --> 00:24:49,595 I said the deadline for the UC Cal State is December 1st. 502 00:24:49,985 --> 00:24:50,425 So. 503 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:54,350 You know, but it worked out that person went to the military and 504 00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:55,650 he's soaring and doing well. 505 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,750 He's in the Air Force and okay, killing it. 506 00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:02,460 But I tell them, don't let money be a factor factor of stopping 507 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:03,500 you from going to college. 508 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:07,050 And again, if you study something like I said that meets those requirements, 509 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:10,630 even if you have to take some student loans to get where you need 510 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:15,190 to go, that's not a bad thing to be able I have a good friend of mine. 511 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:17,750 He's a professor at Mount Sac now got a doctorate degree, but 512 00:25:18,215 --> 00:25:22,485 Along the way, he and I were I especially was a campus clown, not 513 00:25:22,485 --> 00:25:24,005 a class clown, the campus clown. 514 00:25:24,015 --> 00:25:28,405 When I was in elementary, junior high, high school, just there having fun. 515 00:25:28,405 --> 00:25:29,465 Didn't take it seriously. 516 00:25:29,755 --> 00:25:33,125 But my friend, he went through and got his bachelor's, his master's, his 517 00:25:33,125 --> 00:25:34,555 doctorate degree, and he teaches now. 518 00:25:34,955 --> 00:25:38,565 But even if you have to get loans and stuff, you're in a, he's in a position 519 00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:42,095 to pay those, still take care of his family and survive if you have to do 520 00:25:42,095 --> 00:25:47,285 that, don't let these dreams of being a doctor, whatever be stifled by money 521 00:25:47,295 --> 00:25:49,285 and finance, it's a doable thing. 522 00:25:49,285 --> 00:25:50,525 There's ways around it. 523 00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:51,985 There's ways to make it happen. 524 00:25:52,195 --> 00:25:53,825 I'll give you an example real quick and I'm done. 525 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:01,338 Sister Thomasina, Thomasina she, I saw her when she and Chaz were 526 00:26:01,778 --> 00:26:04,108 fresh out of high school and they wanted to be physical therapists. 527 00:26:04,358 --> 00:26:06,628 And at the time you only needed a four year degree, just as they 528 00:26:06,628 --> 00:26:08,138 finished it, they'd move the fence. 529 00:26:08,198 --> 00:26:09,628 Oh, you got to get a master's degree. 530 00:26:09,788 --> 00:26:11,388 So they jumped in master's program. 531 00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:12,448 They moved the fence. 532 00:26:12,728 --> 00:26:14,228 You got to become a doctorate degree. 533 00:26:14,428 --> 00:26:18,808 Well, what she did, she took a commission in the Navy to pay for that. 534 00:26:19,128 --> 00:26:23,048 And so now she just graduated and now she's down in San Diego, Coronado. 535 00:26:23,418 --> 00:26:27,608 working there with the Navy, learning what she learned and 536 00:26:27,618 --> 00:26:29,068 getting it paid for at the same time. 537 00:26:29,068 --> 00:26:30,748 It's a great way to make it happen. 538 00:26:31,028 --> 00:26:32,168 The Air Force Academy. 539 00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:33,128 That's another way. 540 00:26:33,138 --> 00:26:36,158 You know, a lot of our kids don't know anything about that Coast Guard Academy. 541 00:26:36,648 --> 00:26:39,538 I don't know if you know more of our congressmen and senators. 542 00:26:39,608 --> 00:26:43,688 Kids get free education from going through the Coast Guard Academy, and a lot of 543 00:26:43,698 --> 00:26:44,898 people don't know nothing about it. 544 00:26:45,428 --> 00:26:48,598 They get their kids in there and let him get that free education. 545 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:49,368 Get out of there. 546 00:26:49,698 --> 00:26:52,708 And they have, they don't have no bills, everything's paid for. 547 00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:55,868 But our kids don't know anything about those things. 548 00:26:56,178 --> 00:26:58,978 Dr. William T Choctaw: And that's why we want to put that stuff out there. 549 00:26:59,488 --> 00:27:00,848 And we can help to do that. 550 00:27:00,858 --> 00:27:02,008 We can help to do that. 551 00:27:02,268 --> 00:27:05,898 The first thing they used to do in terms of education said, 552 00:27:05,898 --> 00:27:07,238 well, we weren't smart enough. 553 00:27:07,528 --> 00:27:10,688 Then the second thing was, we aren't rich enough. 554 00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:11,558 You can't afford it. 555 00:27:11,948 --> 00:27:14,848 You know, and so we get rid of that, you know, on and on and on. 556 00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:18,498 And then the rest of it is process, process, process. 557 00:27:18,858 --> 00:27:23,118 We can, we can mitigate some of those process issues by, by giving 558 00:27:23,118 --> 00:27:27,558 instructions, by giving information by providing it free you know, to 559 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,108 students and that sort of thing. 560 00:27:29,378 --> 00:27:31,018 And on and on and on. 561 00:27:31,428 --> 00:27:33,288 Well, again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you 562 00:27:33,288 --> 00:27:33,648 Keith Hansen: go. 563 00:27:33,958 --> 00:27:34,658 I'm fine. 564 00:27:34,728 --> 00:27:35,168 I'm fine. 565 00:27:35,168 --> 00:27:35,888 I'm enjoying it. 566 00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:36,868 I thank you so much. 567 00:27:37,558 --> 00:27:41,818 I'm honored and I thank you so for so much for allowing me to be on a professional 568 00:27:41,848 --> 00:27:46,118 podcast as you guys and I am an amateur, but thank you for allowing me to be 569 00:27:46,118 --> 00:27:47,518 in your presence and I'm grateful. 570 00:27:47,518 --> 00:27:47,918 We're all 571 00:27:47,948 --> 00:27:48,508 Dr. William T Choctaw: amateurs. 572 00:27:50,278 --> 00:27:51,828 No, but, but, but thank you so much. 573 00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:53,418 And I continue to be impressed. 574 00:27:53,418 --> 00:27:57,828 The more I listen to you with your passion, because I think it takes 575 00:27:57,828 --> 00:28:01,778 passion to really use it because that's what gets you through the rough spots. 576 00:28:01,858 --> 00:28:06,668 You know and we need leaders like that, particularly who 577 00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:07,878 are dedicated to the youth. 578 00:28:08,308 --> 00:28:12,218 And so whatever we can do to help you and that's what then 579 00:28:12,218 --> 00:28:13,678 we will continue to do that. 580 00:28:13,888 --> 00:28:17,958 If, you know, if you want to come back and do another podcast, just let us know. 581 00:28:18,108 --> 00:28:23,678 Work that out, but definitely we will provide a platform for you to 582 00:28:23,678 --> 00:28:27,078 speak to however you want to speak, 583 00:28:27,498 --> 00:28:29,768 Keith Hansen: you know, again, like I says, I appreciate it. 584 00:28:29,768 --> 00:28:34,068 And I'm glad that you're doing what you do to help change lives and educate people. 585 00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,793 and prepare them into greatness through these type of things. 586 00:28:38,203 --> 00:28:42,243 And I think it's a collective effort of the village, you know, 587 00:28:42,253 --> 00:28:45,703 with that village to help raise kids and take them to new levels. 588 00:28:45,883 --> 00:28:46,103 Yes. 589 00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,363 And I think we can all do a part of it to make it happen.