Promoting Workplace Wellness: Innovative Strategies & Benefits with Sergio Zepeda

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Coming up on this episode of the
Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise podcast.

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There is no magic bullet.

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There is no quick fix, you know,

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um, and the closest thing to that is.

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Welcome to the Healthy, Wealthy,
and Wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD.

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This podcast will inform, educate,
and motivate you to live a more

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healthy, wealthy, and wise life.

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It's powered by the over 50 years
of medical experience of this

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Yale University Medical School.

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who also received his Juris Doctorate
from Western State Law School.

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He has executive experience as a
former mayor of Walnut, California,

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as a chairman of the non profit
Servants Armed, and as president of

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Choctaw Medical Group, Incorporated.

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You've got questions or concerns,
he's got answers for both.

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So let's listen in on an
interview already in progress.

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And I think it's, uh

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It's about changing a culture, right?

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Because in, um, you know, men of this
age, we come from a time where you

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worked, especially, uh, you know,
it's like you, the job is important.

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You can't take time off from work.

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You can't, why are you taking, even
my mother, if I take vacation, are

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you taking so much vacation time
because there's a stigma to work.

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Right.

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And that's the way it used to be
particularly committed to the job.

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So yes, right.

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You'll be passed up for a
promotion because again,

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well, it was, it was like when, when I
was growing up and I'm in my seventies,

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you're, you're approaching 50.

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And the idea was you work for a company
for 50 or 60 years and then you retired.

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And, and the company was committed to
you, and you were committed to them.

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Those days are gone.

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Those days are gone.

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Those jobs have been shipped overseas,
company says, you know what, I'm sorry,

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you know, and even when you have pension
plans, let's say middle class auto

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workers or whatever, company goes in,
gets new managers and say, you know what,

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they have millions of dollars, and then
they take the pension plan money, you

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know, you know, you have to sue them.

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So my point is that.

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that all of that's been flipped on
its head now and it's different.

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It's different.

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Not that it's good or bad,
but it's, it's different.

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And we have to adjust to that difference.

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What would you advise?

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Let's say a 49 year old male who, who,
um, is approaching 400 pounds or close

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to that, maybe, and who's not six, four.

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So let's say who's five,
four or something like that.

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What would you say to him or her?

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You know, in terms of if
they came to you for advice,

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I would say start reaching out
to your primary care physician

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and explain your situation.

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Okay.

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Ask, What does my health plan offer me?

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Um, Kaiser, my health plan through
Kaiser offered quite a bit.

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There were support groups and, um,
you know, and that they, my doctor

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said, you can sign up for this.

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You can sign up for that.

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There's, uh, there's very
good, different apps available.

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Um, but it's also, I think the best
thing is to find out all of your

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possibility, what, everything that's
available and then decide on it.

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Uh, try to make an informed decision about
what is the best course of action for you.

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That makes sense.

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I think that.

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Includes not only knowing what's
available, but then researching into

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what, uh, what experience people who
are similar to my profile have had,

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right?

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Because there's a, the type of man that
you, that used to probably be an athlete

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at one time and they had, they, they had
that history of, you know, it might be a

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little bit easier for them to lose weight.

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So, uh, you know, It might not
be, or as we're saying, it's

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never really been athletic.

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It might be best.

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What did they call it?

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Ectomorphs or mesomorphs or, you know,
muscle, how you process your, what your

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metabolic rate is start finding out
about what, how to, what is your profile?

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becoming more informed,
knowledge is power.

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Yeah, I think that's an excellent point.

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And if you're, and if it's not working,

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ask yourself, okay, it's not working.

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The regroup and.

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Ask for advice because we think
we know and we can listen to a lot

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of podcasts out there that make a
promise and, you know, especially

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around fitness and nutrition, right?

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Miracle.

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There's a, you know, take this.

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It will.

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You know, it will be your miracle cure.

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It will be valid.

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And, well, you know, the whole
thing with dive medication, right?

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No.

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Yeah.

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The whole thing with dive medication.

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I still remember when, when Oprah
got into her new jeans, I don't

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know, 20 or 30 years ago or whatever.

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remember those two, but it
would happen every five years.

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It was a cycle.

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That's right.

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And she'd come out and like,
Heavy Oprah, thin Oprah, right?

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But, but yeah, Luther

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Vandross, yes, yes, yes.

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Luther Vandross is one
of my favorite singers,

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right?

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Great.

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But like he would have a savvy period.

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Then he'd come out and he's skinny.

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That there is no magic bullet.

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There is no, Quick fix, you know,
um, and the closest thing to that is

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healthcare is finally coming up with
good medication with, with some of the

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newer types of medication under physician
supervision that can help, you know,

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and, and the surgeries improve now, you
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and, and to make it more effective
for the patients much better now than

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it was 30 years ago or 40 years ago.

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Um, so, but, but.

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But I, I think your advice is,
is, is very, very good, but what

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else would you advise a patient?

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Get a buddy.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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You know, accountability buddy,
whether it be a gym buddy, someone

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to walk with, someone to even
complain about, yeah, I could really

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go for some fast food right now.

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At least have ones like, we can
acknowledge that, yeah, it'd be really

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great, but we're not going to do it.

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Having an accountability buddy
really helps, you know, even not

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only to work out with you, but
just to hear you, you can gripe.

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Over it.

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Yes.

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Yes I am.

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Um, you know, I do a lot.

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Uh, I walk a lot.

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I spend a lot of that.

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And do I love it?

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Do I hate that?

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I have to spend someone.

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No, it's helpful to my mental health.

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I'll admit it.

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I, uh, I wish I could be that person
that loves to work out or like, uh,

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you know, I don't, I could really enjoy
just sitting, watching Netflix all

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day or something, but I do understand.

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I will not.

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I will not deny that once you get
into the rhythm, there are the, the

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endorphins kick in and feel a difference.

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Yes.

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Getting to that difference is
can be a big ribbing moment.

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And it's so easy to talk
yourself out of it, right?

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Like, well, I won't work out today.

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I'll work out tomorrow.

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Um, you get into these patterns of,
Talking, I'm really good at talking

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myself out of doing physical activity.

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So I, when I get into that mode,
I don't even think about it.

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I just get up and walk out.

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Once I'm in, and once I'm in my zone,
I was like, ah, it wasn't so bad.

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But you were very good.

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You had walking.

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You had a good exercise program, you
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able to build upon, uh, that took you
to the surgery, whatever additional,

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uh, treatment that you needed.

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So you had done a lot of the homework.

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I, so I've developed, I have
fans that I didn't even know,

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uh, I had, I, it's funny.

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I, in the line at the grocery store,
people say, you're the walker.

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You look great.

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I mean, you know, you lost so much
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uh, you inspire me to get out too.

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It feels a little bit creepy.

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It's like, why are you watching me?

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I'm not in my head, but I never think
people notice me, but it happens

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frequently that you're the walker.

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And people recognize me when
I'm out at the stores in the

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local store or something.

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And it's kind of nice that people
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work that you're putting in.

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It shows that you're demonstrating
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you're demonstrating leadership.

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And I think you're also correct.

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I think people do notice us, good or bad.

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You know, and that, that for all of
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of that whatev whatever we're doing
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may be influencing somebody else.

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And it really is about that.

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You see this on the, so on social
media sometimes that, sometimes,

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uh, a kind word to someone Yes.

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Really be a transformational
experience because you don't know.

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What they're dealing with in their
personal life or in this, uh, a kind

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gesture or some, you know, even a few
words can really be transformative.

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So I think there's great value in that.

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And I think.

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We are, um, it doesn't come easy to
a lot of people, I think, especially.

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No, no, it doesn't.

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Uh, society that we live in, right.

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And sometimes our society is cruel to
those people, you know, that we put

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them down and then they sometimes spiral
into sadness and depression, which of

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course then makes the problem worse.

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You know, once you start going
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hole, it's hard to come back up.

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Somebody needs to come and get you, and
sort of pull you back up, because then

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you start having those negative thoughts
that folks have said, and you people this,

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and you people that, and why don't you
do, you know, on and on and on, and start

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questioning your own self confidence.

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And if you lose your confidence, then
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correct choices to, to sort of help.

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and, and come out on the winning end.

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Um, I, I just think it's extraordinary
what, what you've done and

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individuals like yourself have done.

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Yeah, I do think you, it goes
back to that psychological piece.

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You have, you glatch onto this
negativity or you know, I am

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the fattest person in the room.

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People are, yeah.

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Looking at me funny.

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They're looking at me.

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People do notice you or you
know, or on the plane, am I

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taking up too much of the seat?

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Yes.

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You know?

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Um, and people can be very cruel.

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Yes.

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And I think that, and you're right, you
do spiral into this rabbit hole and.

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You just perpetuate it as you know, you
get lost and I think you're so right.

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You need someone Or some, whether or not
a friend or some type of professional help

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to help climb you out, climb out of you.

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And that's why your suggestion that
early on of, of getting a friend.

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That, that friend is there not because
he or she is brilliant in, in weight

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management or whatever, but they're
somebody who will listen and not judge.

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That that's all you need.

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You just need somebody
who listens and not judge.

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Um, I I remember one time Um, um, I
was talking to someone and and they

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they well They were talking to me
and I was saying well You can do this

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this and this and they said to me
they said, you know I'm not talking

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to you for to tell me what to do.

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I just want you to listen

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I can figure out what to do But I I
just need an ear to just listen to me

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Tell you a b and c and that was that
was a watershed moment moment for me.

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I said, you know, okay, I
don't have to always try to

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solve somebody else's problem.

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Sometimes solving that problem
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And sometimes being a friend is just
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what you said is so important.

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We have, uh, we have this in my executive
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vent about something that happened,
I just need to vent about something

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so then everyone knows, okay, he's
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how

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to manage it.

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I just need, especially when you're, there
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the organization because it's perfect.

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sensitive issues, but someone on
your team who you can say, it's

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like, I just need someone to hear me.

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I don't, I don't need, I don't need
your feedback or they're in town to

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tell me I can figure it out, but it's so
helpful to have someone just hear you.

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Yeah, we call it ventilation.

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Ventilation is therapeutic.

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Ventilation therapy.

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And that, that's what good friends do.

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And no judgment, you know.

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You will be okay.

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God is in charge of whatever
the words of encouragement are.

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And we all need that.

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I don't care who we are, how strong
we are, or what we're going through.

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We all hit those, what I call, bumps
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need someone to sort of help us out.

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And hopefully we, we pay
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No, go ahead.

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No, go on.

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No, I was just going to ask.

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So does your, does your company, um,
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Um, and, and how does that work?

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So within our organization, we, um, As a
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um, entitled to, uh, have a 30 minute,
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the day on the clock in addition to their
break, so their hour lunch, their 2.

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15, they can take a 30 minute, 30
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I think we have, um, physical
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times a year where you get 100.

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Okay.

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So, number logs the most physical
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Uh, you get a hundred dollars.

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We have the hundred dollar
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So that happens once a year that if
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a hundred dollars, log in, uh, that
you have physical activity for five

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weeks, for 30 minutes, five days a week.

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You can get 100 back.

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Um, and the flexibility of we're
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So the flex, is that right?

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So the flexibility of if you want to
take a zoom meeting and you have a

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treadmill pad beneath your desk and.

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You're walking along , uh, while you're
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Um, before the pandemic, we uh,
also used to have WA and when we

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had offices before we went remote,
we used to have walking meetings.

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Walking meetings.

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So it's like, okay, we all
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were gonna meet with people.

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We said, okay, well, let's
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So we'd set up sitting, everyone's
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We'd all just go for a walk and have the

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meeting.

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for listening to this episode
of the Healthy, Wealthy,

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and Wise podcast with Dr.

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William T.

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