The Power of Digital Platforms for Ministry Growth: Expanding Your Reach in the Digital Age with the Doctor and Jesse

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Coming up on this episode of the
Healthy, Wealthy and Wise podcast.

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And that's good, you know, but
after we get that, we've got to go,

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we've got to get the message out.

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Uh, it's not necessarily specifically
going out and, you know, Preaching or

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teaching or whatever, unless that's
your, you know, that's your lane, but

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in our walk, in our talk, otherwise,
you know, uh, so that people who,

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you know, see that, see that light
and gravitate toward that light.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD.

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Here's Dr.

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William T.

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Choctaw, MD, JD, with an
interview already in progress.

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Sorry about that.

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No, no, no problem.

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I didn't like the tour.

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Yeah, and uh, and I'm going to miss
some of the, some of it as well.

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Um, as you may or may not have seen,
um, and I think Where he is sometimes,

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I mean, he could have been over here,
but I think it was on his end, his

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reception was fading, and, um, And it
wasn't on a, you know, on a stand alone

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microphone there, so, um, you know,
there wasn't a whole lot of control.

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His voice was coming and going, you
know, throughout the whole conversation.

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I think that can be corrected,
uh, through auto leveling.

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Um, you know, so we should be, you
know, good, still good content.

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Um, and I was going to, uh, hit
in with the, uh, you know, with a

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couple of other questions there.

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But, uh, I saw that, you know, we
had, uh, started wrapping up there.

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So, yeah, I just got, at least I
got that part in about the blogging.

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Uh, which actually just kind of came
to me, uh, for any of the, the, the

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guests or whatever that they come on,
uh, if they have afterthoughts or, you

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know, you know, things that come to
mind or whatever in between time or

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whatever, they can send that information
to us and, and we can use, we can put

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that on, on the site as, as, as, as a
blog, you know, in the blog post there.

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That's, um, you know,
that's just great stuff.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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No, I, I, I, I completely agree.

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Um, um, well, you know, John is, uh,
Ruben Dickinson is always excellent.

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Anyway, he's, he's so smart and
just so, um, uh, knowledgeable

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about different stuff.

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One of the things I started doing
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to do it, try to do it with him
is to have certain, um, topics.

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Um, um, that I want to hear it.

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Uh, at least four topics that I want
to hit, uh, and that I would try

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to organize the interview in such
a way that I, that I have an idea

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about topics that I want to hit.

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Now, many times these topics
evolve, evolve as I talk.

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Uh, to the, just like with him,
I didn't, I didn't think about

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weaponization of the Bible, but
he, he gave that to me as a topic.

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Um, uh, because I was thinking that may
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editing and, and deciding, uh, where
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conversation and, and how to use it.

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Uh, in terms of individual pocket.

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So I, I, I wrote down actually five,
one was, um, uh, reconciliation.

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That was sort of where we started.

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Uh, the second one was, um, a recipe
for saving and growing the church.

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Uh, the third was a father's day message,
uh, for fathers all over the world.

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Uh, fourth was weaponization of the Bible.

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Um, yeah, so it was, it was really
for a weaponization of the Bible,

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and I had five as judgment, um, but
that could be, well, yeah, I'll, I'll

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just call it a fifth one, judgment,
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judgment by Christians or whatever.

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Now, those are just, just general,
general, uh, types of categories and so.

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Uh, the, the Bible wants us to go,
not to stay, you know what I mean?

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Uh huh.

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It's sure, we come to church to get
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you know, to get, you know, redressed
and, and medicine and all of that.

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Uh, and that's good, you know?

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But after we get that, we've got to
go, we've got to get the message out.

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Uhhuh

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,
not necessarily specifically going out
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whatever, unless that's your,
you know, that's your length.

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But in, in, in our walk, in our talk.

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Otherwise, you know, uh, so that people
will, you know, see that, see that light

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and, and gravitate toward that light.

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Mm-hmm, , uh, uh, along the
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and, and everything else there.

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Um, but, uh, so, and thus,
that's the another reason, and

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we've talked about it many time.

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the importance of platforms like this,
you know, because it extends all of that.

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And, and, and I'm an advocate of it
for, for any ministry, any congregation,

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you know, to have a digital platform
so that you can extend your message.

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Because everybody doesn't go Uh,
to say, Stephen, you know, it's

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interesting everywhere I look now,
there are all sorts of digital

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platforms that churches are using.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And I suspect that they've
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I'm just noticing it more because
I'm more involved with it.

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Well, going back to what you
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uh, Reverend Nickens joined us.

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I, you know, I usually look
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the stuff on a daily basis.

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And I, I had noticed yesterday.

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Uh, you know, I can get into it
and everything, but I noticed

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that was a message that I didn't
understand about DNS or whatever.

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So I said, yeah, bother that.

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Um, um, um, so it didn't surprise me.

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I, I didn't know what it meant.

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Yeah.

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It didn't surprise me when, when
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some stuff with the Google.

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Um, yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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That was, that was, uh,
you know, I was like, wow.

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I mean.

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I was just surprised to see that happen.

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But it happens, you know, uh, and
that's, you know, that's just all part

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of, you know, being a webmaster, um, a
network administrator and all of that,

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you know, you have to be vigilant, you
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you know, things happen, um, and it
is surprising Especially in this day

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and age, running out of storage space.

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Yeah, but, but you can, um,
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Uh, it is different than text
and it takes Right, makes sense.

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A whole, a whole lot more bandwidth.

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And so, uh, the more it is used, uh, you
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know, more storage space you have to have.

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And so, um.

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Uh, and I'm certain that there
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storage, um, developed over the years.

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Uh, there might be
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I have to look that up.

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But, uh, but the invention of the
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You know, because I can remember back
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Packard Bell, uh, uh, uh, uh, computer.

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And I, in order to put another, uh, bit
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in and everything, I had to delete.

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Something.

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Had to delete a whole system or
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It was like, oh my gosh, I wish
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And, uh, and lo and behold, they did.

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They, um, they, they came up
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know, over a period of years.

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And so the terabyte, you know, just, you
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And you can buy multiple
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And you would think that you would
never run out, but you would.

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You know, over a period of time,
you know, uh, years and sometimes.

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Well, why did that happen
this time, you think?

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The gig ran out of storage.

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And why did we run out of storage?

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Is it because we were using
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No, no, no.

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It's just normal, normal stuff there.

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Our capacity was, uh,
I don't know, 27 gigs.

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Okay.

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And we went beyond 27 gigs.

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Okay.

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Um, and so when it, when it gets
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because it can't, it can't, uh,
you know, it's like a balloon.

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It just burst.

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Um, or well, maybe not like a
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It just shut down, uh, a fail
safe type of a system there.

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Uh, if it had a burst, we
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Um, but, we have been doing more, probably
more video stuff, more than last year.

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Well, yeah, yeah.

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Um, from the beginning to now, yes, lots.

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We've even doubled our, at least
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this year as compared to last year.

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Not even talk about the video
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so that certainly makes sense.

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And to your point, um, uh, something
that I asked, uh, the, uh, the, the

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tier person that I was speaking with,
how can we prevent this in the past and

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just simply, you know, just upgrading
the, uh, the capacity, you know, which

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I did, uh, I think we're at at least,
uh, uh, one terabyte, uh, uh, uh,

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yeah, one, uh, terabyte right now.

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Okay.

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Of my, the check for, uh, again,
we're about at 27 gigabytes.

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Okay.

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Which is, which is, you know,
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is a thousand gigabytes.

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Got it, got it.

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Of roughly it's like 1,024 gigabytes.

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Exactly.

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But.

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Um, yeah, you know, that
that was basically it.

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Uh, and I've, I checked it pure,
uh, through throughout our, uh,

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conversation with the reverend and
it looks like everything is back, you

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know, the, the, you can access the
website and I'm back into email and,

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uh, current emails is dropping in.

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Uh, and, and that was other glad you
mentioned because that, the other thing

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I noticed that the email did drop off.

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You know, I wasn't able to get
back in with the email, but

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I could access the website.

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I could move around, you know, pretty
much the way I've done in the past.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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So it didn't shut down the website.

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I was in it as early as,
as, as late as this morning.

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I couldn't, for whatever
reason, and you know, maybe I needed

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to have closed down a browser and
come back in or something like

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that, of which I did do a few times.

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I wasn't able to get it.

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Because I went, I wanted to, I
like to go back in and look at the.

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Um, the, when we're doing an interview, I
go back and look at the, the information

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that provided by, by the interviewee.

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So I just want to remind myself
about, uh, Nickens information.

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So you, were you on the website
or were you on pod page?

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No, I was on the website.

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I, I, I go into the website.

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Um, I, I can, I can access
it through PowerPage.

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I know how to do that.

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I go to the web, because if I do it
through PowerPage, I can't do anything

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but look at the embedded player.

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Um, um, but I, when I go to
PowerPage, I go to it independently

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in general, um, just to look at stuff.

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And usually I do that, well, I
must always do it right before

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an interview, because I just to
refresh myself information about the

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interviewee and all that sort of stuff.

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And that is, is Do we have a picture
of John to add to his, uh, Uh, yes.

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Let's see.

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I think he, he, he put one on the,
on the thing with podcast, didn't he?

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Yeah, let me see.

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Yeah, seems like I remember he did.

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We, we've had that, and if not, um, I
think I have a number of pictures of him.

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Well, I think last year when we did his
podcast, we weren't putting pictures on.

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Uh, Um, But, but yeah, I'm sure we
probably have some, but, but that was just

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one thought, make sure we put a picture.

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Yeah.

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This thing.

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Yeah, one of the, um, like I said,
one of the last things that I was

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working on at Google, you know, was
that domain aspect, you know, we

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already have a picture of him up there.

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Okay.

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Good.

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I can use that one.

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I should say to you.

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Yeah.

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That's fine.

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I just want to make sure we have one.

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Um, and also can we put
pictures on old podcasts?

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Uh, yes.

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I'm specifically thinking about Lorena's.

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Um, she has a very nice picture.

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I'll send it to you.

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Okay.

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Let's see.

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And the reason I think, because
what I, amazing to me, when I

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look at, uh, as I review the
numbers, uh, sometimes at the top.

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You know, whatever in, in a certain period
of time, her podcast still jumps up there

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a lot of times, even though it's a 23
podcast, which I find interesting, um,

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but, but my thought was, it'd be good
to have her, to have her picture there

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too, because I think it'll add to it.

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I think it'll, it'll jump up, you know,
a little bit of that picture there.

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In fact, she can continue to still
share that out to people that

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she hasn't shared in the past.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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She, so I'll, I'll just send
that over to you as, as a email.

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Okay.

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That'll be fine.

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That'll be fine.

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Uh, we're up now to 93,000 downloads.

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Look at that.

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Yeah.

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A couple hours ago.

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1000 to go.

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We can hit that a hundred by the end of
this month if we keep going like this.

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Yeah, Y

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, the, the podcast, uh, we're 89,
was it 89.9 or something like that?

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I, so I think it was 89.9
or something like that.

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Um, so my, my point is that we're,
we're, we're, we're neck and neck, uh,

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or we're very close to our, to our goals.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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So those numbers are moving very steadily.

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And you know, what, what they do, and
I think we may have mentioned this last

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time we talked, um, and, and I, I won't
hold you long, but with the new ones,

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they add more downloads proportionately
to the new ones than to the old ones.

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Like, like for instance, if, if we publish
a, I mean, a podcast today, that podcast,

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I don't know, we get say, maybe a week.

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Yeah.

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10 downloads, uh, as compared to
the others this week, uh, or last

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week that we get three downloads.

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It's usually the first one or two,
and then the others are pretty,

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pretty, pretty much the same.

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Not sure why they do that, but, but
that's, that's the way they do it.

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So it's like it gives the new download,
uh, the new podcast sort of a, a, an

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adv, a brief advantage or gets some
in there for some reason, I think, um.

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And I think the, uh, like, I know that
the algorithms for websites and podcasts

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are different, but both of them have
those, and I think the initial podcast

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episodes are pushed a little bit more so,
uh, by the system or by the algorithm.

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To get the, um, uh, to get it out
there, to get the, the content out

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there in order to, uh, you know,
um, make it available to those that

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might be looking for it or searching
for it, and then the older content.

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Uh, actually just flows on the
normal algorithm that's out there.

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I think I read that somewhere, what
you just said, because last, or this

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week, I was going back and I, I,
I usually take one or two of the.

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The little video conferences,
the Evenbrite, Everbrite,

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whenever they come out.

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And in one of them, they said
something like that, that, well, the

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first, the new ones, they push them.

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Yeah.

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Um, and so you can tell that push and the
difference between the number of downloads

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on the same day at the same time.

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Yep.

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And disproportionately
when, when they get them.

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That's right.

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Um, Well, listen, I don't want
to hold you from the pool.

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But thank you again so much for
number one, fixing the Google stuff,

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but dealing with the Google stuff.

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I knew something was going on and I
said, I'm not going to push any button.

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This is, this is just
his domain, literally.

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So I was trying to get it.

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I was trying to get a, get it
corrected before you blinked.

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I was able to run around the website
and everything like I normally could.

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But I can tell something was going on.

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But yeah, so far so good.

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So far so good.

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We're off to a good month, a good start.

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And certainly, we can get four
out of this, so that'll be huge.

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Um, I will, uh, follow up, um, if not
tomorrow, or later today, or whatever,

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with, uh, with Brother Jerry, uh, just
to make sure that they're on, because he,

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we've been kind of communicating anyway,
so, he knows that they're, they're up, you

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know, I think it's next, is it next week?

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Uh, I think it's a week,
week after, uh, in a second.

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Yeah.

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No, it's next week.

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No, I'm sorry.

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Next week.

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Is it next there?

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This month is really It is.

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It is.

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Wow.

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I think part of it is because
we're so, we're busier.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The year, it's gone
almost too, uh, halfway.

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Uh, so yeah, uh, so him and, um,
uh, uh, brother Higgins, Um, I will

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follow up with, just to make sure that
they're, you know, um, everything is

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still a, a green light and, uh, at 10.

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Yeah.

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And then crus at, at 11.

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Right.

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And, uh.

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We'll just continue on, uh, uh,
communicating, doing what we, what

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we do, what we have done and building
on that, continuously improving.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, well listen, you have a, you
have a good Father's Day weekend.

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I will.

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You're doing the same.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Will do.

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Will do.

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Already started.

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Will do.

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Uh, and thanks again for
your help today, too.

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Oh, not a problem at all.

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Thank you very much.

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Before he's miserable.

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Have a great day.

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God bless you.

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All right.

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See you later.

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All righty.

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