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Speaker 1: Welcome to the
Healthy, Wealthy and Wise
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podcast with Dr William Chokta,
MDJD. Our mission is to empower
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you with the knowledge and the
tools you need to thrive in all
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aspects of your lives. Join us
now as we discuss everything
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from nutrition and exercise to
money management and personal
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growth. Dr Chokta will provide
insightful advice on how to
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improve your physical and
financial health, as well as
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your emotional and mental
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looking to boost your energy
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or cultivate a more positive
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Get ready to become the best
version of yourself? So let's
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get started. Here's Dr William
Chokta, MDJD.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the
Leadership Masterclass. We're
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going to talk about cardiac
arrest and heart attack this
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morning. We're delighted to have
you with us, so let's get
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started. I believe life is about
being of service to others. I
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believe knowledge is power. I
believe leaders can change the
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world. Today we're going to talk
about a very important topic
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And, as always, i'd like to give
you an outline. The outline
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lets you know what we're going
to talk about, and the other
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purpose of the outline is to let
you know that when we're just
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about done. So first I wanted,
as always, to suggest to you
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let's do what to have you think
like doctors, and if you think
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like doctors, then some of this
stuff will make sense to you as
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we go through this presentation.
Next, we're going to talk about
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the common causes of death in
this country. Take a distinction
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between cardiac arrest and
heart attack, and we'll end with
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a discussion about
cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
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So by the time we start talking
about CPR, you know that I'm
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just about done. I realize that
you're very busy people and
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we're absolutely delighted to
have you join us on this journey
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and to spare some of your very
valuable time with us. The most
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common cause of death in this
country are heart disease,
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cancer and trauma. Heart disease
, cancer and trauma. We're going
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to concentrate on heart disease
for the time that we have
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together And we can divide heart
disease into two main areas,
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the most serious parts of heart
disease, and that is heart
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attack and cardiac arrest. Now,
you've heard of both of them,
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but we're going to break it down
to distinguish between the two,
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because sometimes people get
them confused. So let's talk
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about heart attack. Heart attack
is when. Well, let me back up,
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the heart is a muscle that sits
in the middle of the chest and
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is connected through the other
parts of the body through very,
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very large blood vessels. The
heart basically works by having
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blood supplied to it, to those
muscles, so that those muscles
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can pump regularly and
efficiently to move blood around
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to all the different parts of
the body. So it's a very, very
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important part, a very, very
obviously important organ in the
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body, and to do that, the heart
must be supplied with the blood
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, supplied through what's called
the coronary arteries, or the
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heart arteries, if you will.
These arteries. They go
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throughout the heart and they
supply the muscle with oxygen,
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with blood, through red blood
cells. That allows it to do its
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work and pump the blood
throughout the body. So a heart
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attack in essence means that
there is a blockage, either
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complete or partial, of those
arteries that supply blood to
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the heart. Let me say that again
a heart attack is a blockage,
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partial or complete, of those
arteries we call them coronary
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arteries that supply blood to
the heart. And what happens is
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that as that blockage becomes
more and more and more complete,
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less and less blood gets to the
heart muscles. The heart then
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cannot function as it normally
should and a heart attack may
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very well ensue. So but we were
always taught And this dates
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back to what's called the
Fremenheim study, which is many,
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many years ago I graduated from
medical school in 1973. This is
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long before that But basically
the Fremenheim study told us
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that when someone is having a
heart attack, they would have
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the primary symptoms include a
crushing substernal chest pain
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that radiated to the left arm, a
crushing substernal chest pain,
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a pain in the middle of the
chest that was very, very hard,
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very, very strong, and that then
radiated, or moved, if you will
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, around and down the left arm.
Occasionally it could be
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associated with nausea. But the
crushing substernal chest pain
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was absolutely a major factor in
diagnosing this particular
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condition And that it usually
occurred in men, usually in
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middle age, the elderly men
sometimes, who were slightly
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overweight, and that obviously
was important to get these
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individuals to a hospital so
they could be treated
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immediately. So in effect, the
heart attack is basically a
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plumbing problem. It's a good
way to think about it, in other
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words as a blockage of blood
supply to the heart via its
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coronary artery vessels And so
as a result of this blockage
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either partial or complete,
let's say complete blockage
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blood cannot get to the muscle
of the heart and the heart then
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cannot pump in, the heart goes
into a failure or just stops
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many times Frequently. It's not
uncommon that these symptoms of
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the heart attack could be
gradual, maybe discomfort, which
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then may increase in time
depending on level of exertions
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and depending on the patient's
prior medical condition. But the
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presentations were pretty
specific. But there was one
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problem with the presentation
for the heart attack And the
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Fremenhem study, which was, as I
said, was the main source of
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information about this is that
the Fremenhem study did not
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include women. The Fremenhem
study again, remember this was
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probably in the 50s and the 60s,
if not before the 70s, and back
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in those days a lot of the
large studies did not include
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women At least this one did not
And the heart attack was
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primarily considered, primarily
a male disease And, as a result,
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treatment and therapy and
education was based on that.
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What was discovered subsequently
was that when women have a
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heart attack, that they don't
proceed through the classic
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Fremenhem study process, that
many times women may not have
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the crushing sub-sternal chest
pain that radiates to the left
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arm, that indeed they may come
in with nausea, they may come in
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with a bad case of indigestion
or extreme fatigue, they may
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have some chest pain, but it
might be in the lower chest of
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the upper abdomen And, as a
result, there's a whole area of
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quality healthcare that has
occurred in the last 50 years.
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To improve the quality of
treatment for heart disease in
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women Because it was finally
realized that the presentation
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and the approach and the effect
of heart disease in women was
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different from that of men, and
to provide quality care for
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women who have heart disease,
particularly progressing to a
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heart attack, you have to
understand what the methodology
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is in women and the presentation
, the signs and symptoms. So a
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very, very important change or
growth in healthcare that women
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are not like men 100% in the way
they present with a heart
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attack. Not too long ago. That
was a situation in one of our
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national pastimes, football,
where a particular football
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player was playing in a game
very aggressively, was hit and
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immediately fell to the ground
and his heart stomped,
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immediately, fell to the ground
and they noticed he did not have
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a pulse And so it concluded.
The conclusion was immediately
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that he had a cardiac arrest. So
we just talked earlier about
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the heart attack. That's a
plumbing problem. Remember we
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talked about how the arteries
and vessels to the muscle were
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narrowed or blocked completely
and the heart then stops beating
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. But in this situation the
heart stops immediately after
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this traumatic hit. And so what
we're talking about secondly
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here is a cardiac arrest, and a
cardiac arrest is not a plumbing
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problem like heart attack.
Cardiac arrest is an electrical
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problem. Electrical problem
Because another part of the
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anatomy of the heart, in
addition to the muscle and the
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blood supply, it is an
electrical unit that there's an
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electrical charge that starts in
this sinoatrial node, the SA
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node, that spreads its
electrocurrent throughout the
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heart, that allows the muscle to
contract and expand as needed
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and depending on the supply
needed by the body. So the heart
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is a very complex organ and
it's more than just the muscle,
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but it's also an electrical unit
. So if you do something, if you
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interrupt that electrical flow,
that heart will immediately
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stop or certainly begin to
function in a way that is not
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productive. Sometimes it may go
into what we call ventricular
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fibrillation, where the big
ventricles of the heart do not
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pump adequately, but just sort
of quiver, if you will, and with
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that quivering blood does not
get around to other parts of the
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body and the patient is in
extreme condition And if
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intervention does not occur,
that patient could die and
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certainly could very well become
brain dead. What we know is
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that obviously the most
sensitive organ in the body to
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blood loss, among others, is the
brain, and usually you have
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about three to four minutes to
get that going again, if indeed
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that's what has occurred, and
this was what happened with Mr
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Hemlin. So let's summarize what
we just said here Heart attack
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is the plumbing problem. The
arteries are clogged up so that
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blood that normally would go to
the heart muscle cannot
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adequately get there in
sufficient quantities. Pneumatic
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arrest is an electrical problem
. After a traumatic blow to the
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heart, for whatever reason, the
electrical system is disrupted
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And because of that disruption
the current does not go to the
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muscle the heart muscle properly
and the muscle is the heart is
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then rendered inadequate in
terms of fulfilling its role in
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getting blood supply to the rest
of the body. So what can you do
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? Let's say you're in an area,
let's say you're walking through
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an airport and you have time to
catch your plane, and in the
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area is a little crowded and a
lot of people moving back and
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forth, and all of a sudden
there's a person walking who
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begins to slow, let's say an
elderly person, and they're sort
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of grabbing their chest and
they immediately fall in the
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middle of the airport area. You
then go up to them and you say
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something, along with other
people, to them, and they're not
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responsive. And you touch them,
you feel for a pulse and you do
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not feel a pulse. This is where
cardiopulmonary resuscitation
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comes in and basically many of
you already know this, but I'm
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going to go over it anyway. This
is where you start
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cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
You've seen it on television and
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what you do is that you first
would have someone call 911, if
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you're not by yourself and you
would then lean over the person,
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be 90 degrees to them and put
your the palm of your hand in
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the middle of their chest bone
we call it the sternum about
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halfway down and middle of the
chest, at 90 degrees, and you do
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30 compressions and two breaths
. Now, some people just do the
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compression, some people are
uncomfortable doing the breaths,
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that's okay, but it's important
to do the compressions after
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you've called. I had someone to
call 911, if you're able to. So
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cardiopulmonary resuscitation
involves 30 compressions, two
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breaths, 30 to two, and it's
very important to do that. If it
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is a child, then you would do I
was, depending on the age of
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the child, but a very small
child you could do 15
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compressions to one breath. The
most important thing is the call
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911. If, on the other hand, in
addition to all of that, you are
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in an area that has what's
called a detribulator and more
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and more detribulators being
placed in public areas now,
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particularly in airports and
other places stores, large
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stores, malls Usually these are
things on the wall with bright
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colors and they'll say AED and
that stands for automated
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external detribulator. If you
see that, you can open that up
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and basically that's the way
where you can actually shock the
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heart to start electrical
activity. So let me go over this
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again. You're in the airport,
you observe a person fall and
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become unconscious and appears
that they may very well have had
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a cardiac arrest. After you
evaluate them, you call 911. If
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there's someone with you they
can help you. If there's no one
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with you and you believe this
person is unresponsive, you
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cannot fill a pulse, then it's
appropriate to start
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cardiopulmonary resuscitation 30
compressions to two breaths. So
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let's summarize what we just
said. Heart disease is the most
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common cause of death in the
United States. Two of the most
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common types of heart disease
they call death are heart
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attacks and cardiac arrests. Men
differ from women with heart
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attacks in that women don't have
the classic crutch and
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substernal chest pain with pain
that radiates down the left arm.
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Women may present with any
number of symptoms. So one has
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to have a high index of
suspicion as to whether a woman
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is having a heart attack when
you see them or evaluate them.
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Cardiac arrest, on the other
hand, is completely different.
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This will be something that's
very dramatic, that will happen
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immediately, and the person will
go from being conscious to
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being unconscious many times.
There you have Menistor Act and
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if you're comfortable with CPR
cardiopulmonary resuscitation,
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cold 911, have someone call 911,
do cardiopulmonary
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resuscitation 30 compressions to
two breaths and continue that
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until you get assistance or
until the patient responds. I
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would recommend, if you do not
have formal CPR training, that
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you get the CPR training.
Usually It's given in schools,
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many times in churches, the fire
department or adult education
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areas. It's just something good
to have just training this good
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to have because you never know
My basic principles And remember
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what I said. When I get to my
basic principles, i'm just about
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done. My first basic principle
is that God is in charge. I am a
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physician, but I am a physician
of faith, and God has been very
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important to me in my journey
throughout life in terms of
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dealing with different issues
and trying to make a difference
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in the world. My second
principle is I have no bad days.
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I decided I learned a number of
years ago that whether my day
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was good or bad was completely
up to me. So, with that being
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the case, i decided that I had
had enough bad days and I did
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not want any more. So I don't
have. I have good days and I
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have great days, but I don't
have bad days. Number three
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don't sweat the small stuff, and
most stuff is small. I have
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also learned that usually if
something happens in my
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throughout my day that appears
to be important or traumatic or
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stressful, that most of times
it's never as stressful as I
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think it is or as important as I
think it might be, and usually
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I can take a more deliberate
approach and resolve whatever
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that issue is. Number four
forgiveness is therapy. If
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someone does something in my
perception that I consider to be
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negative or disruptive or
inappropriate, i have learned to
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forgive them. And not only does
forgiveness remove that as an
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issue for me, I have found that
it is absolutely therapeutic And
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I certainly recommend that to
you in the appropriate
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circumstances. And finally,
everything is a relationship And
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relationships are based on
mutual respect, mutual trust and
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good communication, and it does
not matter what type of
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relationship it is A husband,
wife, work relationship, parent,
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child, colleague, colleague If
you're able to provide or create
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mutual respect, mutual trust
and good communication, then you
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will have a very, a number of
very good relationships
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throughout life and will be
happy and less stressful as a
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result. I want to go over a very
important area that has to do
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with cardiac disease, and this
may seem a little strange to you
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, but remember, the body is one
unit all together, and all the
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different parts of the body work
together, and so I want to
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close with a brief discussion
about stress management. Stress
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is one of those things that
occurs to us every single day,
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but we don't pay much attention
to it, but yet it's an important
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part of our lives, and not only
is it an important part of our
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mental life, it's also an
important part of our cardiac
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life. Okay, so one of the things
I want to have you to keep in
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mind that throughout your daily
life, it is okay to say no. I
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have noticed in my practice over
the last 15 years that many
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patients who came to see me and
who were stressed were
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frequently individuals who had
difficulty saying no. No means
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no. You can say it with a smile,
you can say it with a hug, but
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it still means no. What it does
is it gives the individual, it
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gives you the opportunity to
have some control over your life
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, instead of always allowing
others to dictate what you do
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and when you do it, and you
would be amazed at how having
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just a small amount of control
will be beneficial. So learn how
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to say no. Remember that the
mind is divided into the ego and
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the superego. The ego is
basically responsible for
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wanting certain things for the
individual, and the ego really
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doesn't care about anybody else.
The ego is the rational part of
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the mind. It's the part of the
mind that tells you whether
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something that you want to do is
reasonable or not, and the
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superego is the right and wrong
part of the mind. I would
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encourage you to remember those
three different parts of your
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mind and to utilize them at all
times. One of the things that we
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know is that what we believe
affects how we think, and how we
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think affects how we feel, and
how we feel affects how we act.
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So if you find yourself
constantly stressed, it may be
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something that stems back from
your belief system, many of
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those beliefs that may have
started in childhood or early
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adulthood. I would suggest to
you to go back and evaluate a
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circumstance or an encounter, if
you will, that may have been
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negative or you perceived as
negative, and see if it's based
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on some old belief that you've
had for many years. Many times
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when you do that, you will find
out that that belief is no
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longer tenable and you can
change it or get rid of it. And
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finally, i want to end up with
the word think. Before you speak
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And certainly our parents would
tell us that, but think about
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it in terms of a mnemonic, to
some extent The teeth. Before
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you speak, make sure that what
you think is true about
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something or some circumstance.
Before you speak, make sure that
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what you think is helpful.
Before you speak, make sure that
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what you think is inspiring And
make sure that what you are
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going to say is necessary. And
finally, before you speak, make
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sure that what you're going to
say is kind. If you're able to
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do all those things, you're able
to release your own personal
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power, be less stressed and be
less inclined to having serious
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cardiac pathology. Final comment
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